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    not to stir the pot more. but the second A4 built on display at Remington..has a M73B1 marked scope attached.. you used to be able to do a virtual picture view of the weapons..
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    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

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    I really think this has run its course.

    A last tidbit from official government records:

    "Lyman had produced its ALASKAN hunting sight since 1937, and offered two reticules: a crosshair version and a tapered post version. The earliest commercial models do not have adjustment covers, and the later versions with covers have adjustment housing marked ALL-WEATHER. Commercial serials stood in the 4900 range when the first military work began in 1943. According to TM9-270 of 28 Sept 43. The Weaver telescopic sight No. 330C (M73B1) is being mounted to the M1903A4 rifle. A Lyman 'Alaskan' type telescope sight will be used as an alternate. These early Lyman's were designated M73. In 1944 Ordnance added a sun/rain shield to the front of the scope and a rubber eyecup to the rear. In November, the crosshair style was assigned the military nomenclature M81, and the tapered post type was designated M82.This final configuration was officially adopted in January of 1945, despite having been used from mid-1944."

    As for the SMLE/Griffin&Howe/Lyman connection is important in showing that in 1944/5 450 Alaskans were ordered to be fitted to SMLEs. At least 99 were completed. Obviously there was no shortage of completed working All Weather Alaskans available. The folks in Canadaicon bought and used them but we didn't.......

    When the rifle is done, I'll post some pics. It will be wearing a 6X Kollmorgen (military finish) that did not exist in the USN (except aboard the USS Fentress AK-180) seen when I visited a friend on board.)

    Those of us who served in "Johnson's war" and got around a lot are well aware that many things happened and were done that don't appear in any texts or official records.
    After all White Feather's 30-06 M70 was hardly government issue, nor is the 8X Unertl it carries the USMC model. Almost all the "Air America" guys I ran across in SEA carried AKs as they views the M-16 as a POS. Then there was the M 70 270 WCF standard target model with a 10X Super Target Spot and several wooden cases of 270 WCF Silvertips that sat in their arms room. One of the cases was opened and several boxes missing ..... one can only wonder.
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    TM 9-1270 was published in Jan 44. All mention of the Lyman Alaskan in regard to the M1903A4 had been deleted as, by that time, it was clear Lyman would be unable to deliver on its M73 contract before A4 production ended.

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    I thought the Griffin & Howe/Lyman 's were used on the No4 rifle not the SMLE.

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    You are correct about the No. 4s, those of us not hip deep in Britishicon rifles err in calling them all SMLEs. I have been in touch with G&H about those mounts (bases). While they are no longer made, it appears from Skennertonicon that a std G&H flat side base would work fine as neither eye relief or bolt lift should be an issue.

    As for the Lyman/1093A3/4 connection, Campbells book specifically mentions Lymans on 03/4s in Korea. No doubt some of the same ones seen in Vietnam.

    Both the Navy and USMC held on to scoped A3/4 rifles for shipboard duty long after they were phased out of shore duty. Good for mine destruction and dealing with the far too common in/under water sappers in Vietnam.
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