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    I'm sort of in the same boat. When I started collecting firearms, I vowed to myself that I wouldn't buy anything I couldn't get ammo for. I threw that out the window this past year and have several obsolete ammo rifles including an 1889 Swissicon. You can use the Swiss brass but should trim it down a bit and then load it to 30-40 Kragicon specs from what I've read. Bullets are also round nosed which would make it easy to tell them apart. It didn't take me more than about 2 months to decide I needed a Swiss Vetterli to round out the Swiss series. I don't have every variation but the more common major ones now.

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    "Anyone know what all the conversion consisted of? I notice this rifle still has the old style bolt with the lugs at the rear. "


    It rather looks as if the conversion was not much more than changing the backsight to match the trajectory of GP11 ammo.

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    "I vowed to myself that I wouldn't buy anything I couldn't get ammo for."
    - So I can't sell you a rimfire Peabody then ?

    "I threw that out the window this past year and have several obsolete ammo rifles"
    - Makes reloading much more interesting.

    "It didn't take me more than about 2 months to decide I needed a Swissicon Vetterli to round out the Swiss series."
    Rimfire, I hope!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    I'm sort of in the same boat. When I started collecting firearms, I vowed to myself that I wouldn't buy anything I couldn't get ammo for. I threw that out the window this past year and have several obsolete ammo rifles including an 1889 Swissicon. You can use the Swiss brass but should trim it down a bit and then load it to 30-40 Kragicon specs from what I've read. Bullets are also round nosed which would make it easy to tell them apart. It didn't take me more than about 2 months to decide I needed a Swiss Vetterli to round out the Swiss series. I don't have every variation but the more common major ones now.
    That's funny. I have 2 Vetterlis as well. One is still original rimfire and one has been converted. In fact I just ordered some projectiles for the converted rifle today.

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    Patrick,

    It is rimfire but I'm planning to get a second bolt for it to convert. I already have the dies. I also have a Dutch Mannlicher (which I did finally find ammo for) a Dutch Beaumont, the 1889 Swissicon, and a Frenchicon Gras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    Patrick,

    It is rimfire but I'm planning to get a second bolt for it to convert. I already have the dies. I also have a Dutch Mannlicher (which I did finally find ammo for) a Dutch Beaumont, the 1889 Swissicon, and a Frenchicon Gras.
    Do you have the Lee dies for the Vetterli? If so, do you have to modify them to work?

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    I do have the Lee dies but I have no brass so I haven't used them yet. I just got them a few weeks ago and they are still sitting here by the computer, didn't even open them yet.

    What modification did you hear about? I wasn't aware any were needed for the Lee dies. I did read they don't crimp but that's the only issue I'm aware of.

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    The video link below explains it better than I. I haven't bought dies yet but will probably get the Lee because of price and do whatever modification is necessary. I received some brass with the rifle and I bought some from Buffalo Arms.



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    Sounds like he's just using oversized bullets.

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    Could be. I don't really know anything about the dies at this point.

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    I opened it up. It comes with a #8 shell holder which works perfectly with the 348 Winchester. It does not work for the 8mm Lebel. Could not find my original Swissicon.

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