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    19 LD. is likely the 19th Battalion of the London Regiment (Territorials). Immediately prior to and early WWI, most Territorial units were armed with CLLEs, especially those in the Dardanelles/middle east (2/19 was in Salonika & Palestine, for example)

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    clle, ldon div, sniper rifle

    hi there,
    Really nice rifle, I've not seen any in Canadaicon,having a hard time obtaining one. I do have a picture of my Grandad marching off to war with one over his shoulder with the 1st of the 1st London Division, don't know much else, other than I'd like one. I have a Enfield made rifle not original, so I'm thinking of converting it, by adding the bridge.
    Second to this I've seen some picture of these, with early or a german scope on it, being used as sniper rifles, for which I would think they were excellent. Would anyone out there, be able to put more meat on the bones, I'd love to know more, and what would the 1st of the 1st tag be, if if just following the logic below, thanks.

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    Jrhead, interesting. I found a page of Britishicon and Commonwealth unit abbreviations, it shows 'LD' to be 'Light Dragoons'. But wasn't that unit disbanded long before this rifle was built?
    There are also remnants of unit/rack numbers (?) on the right side of the buttstock, but so far, very hard to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzac15 View Post
    Jrhead, interesting. I found a page of Britishicon and Commonwealth unit abbreviations, it shows 'LD' to be 'Light Dragoons'. But wasn't that unit disbanded long before this rifle was built?
    There are also remnants of unit/rack numbers (?) on the right side of the buttstock, but so far, very hard to read.
    19th Light Dragoons became the 19th Lancers in 1816, and disbanded a while after that during the draw down after the Napoleonic wars. As far as I know, all light dragoon units were gone long before the magazine rifle era. Disbanded or converted to lancers or hussars. There's a page in Skennertonicon's "The Broad Arrow" (pg.89) that shows a couple of the Territorial units of the London Regiment using the "LD" abbreviation.

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    Gotcha. Interesting.

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    If the barrel is original with the receiver, then it is a 1897 produced BSA L.E. I, the I* marking on the left wrist strap is consistent with LSA conversion to Charger Loading, probably in 1909. The E Enfield inspection stamp to the right of the bolt way could, indicate that the rifle was upgraded to Mk VII ammunition there.

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