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    Faster Than A Rocket! thought I would just add that as a general distraction

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    A clip is loaded en-bloc, 'goes inside' the action and functions as part of the rifle (Ala Garandicon) and is ejected when empty.
    A Charger holds the rounds in place whilst they are manually 'stripped' out of the charger - the charger then falls away externally to the rifle.
    A magazine holds the rounds in place ready for the rifle bolt to pick up and chamber.

    Its an Enfield forum - lets use the correct terminology so there is no confusion.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    And since you asked, I believe 1957 was the last year of production, or at least assembly, at ROF(F)
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    When comes the time to "pass it on" and you are quizzed about that marking, you could reply that it was a "special" armourer's mark meaning:

    "F....in' Terrific Rifle"

    Or, tell them the truth.....
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    AdeE is dead right in thread 12. It's sooooo confusing when things are being discussed and answered when the question and therefore the answer is miscinstrued and then MIS answered because the wrong terminology is used. It's even worse when you ask '......exactly what part you are referring to is sticking or fouling etc.?' and you get some cleverarse '....ain't it obvious' sort of answer

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    Guess it gets confusing for some of those with less exposure to others I have always known them as stripper clips for the 303 and well a magazine is a magazine - if this be the case then what of the Carcano system I have never studied the action but I think the clip comes out the bottom of the mag when empty can it then be called an en-bloc system! TIA

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    Converted to no4 mk2.hung trigger

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    I stand corrected.
    The correct word is magazine according to a Lee Enfield parts catalog.
    thankyou for all the input and I don't think I will ever sell it but my son might after I have gone to the great hunting ground.
    I bought it years ago along with a 30/40 Kragicon which I sold about 20 yrs ago.
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    The rifle is a very nice one and interesting as well. It's a wartime Savage converted to Mk.2 during FTR in 1956. That has to be a very late conversion date for a No.4Mk.1/2. It even appears to sport it's original Savage Mk.1 rear sight as the battle apertures are very distinct looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Dickicon View Post
    The rifle is a very nice one and interesting as well. It's a wartime Savage converted to Mk.2 during FTR in 1956. That has to be a very late conversion date for a No.4Mk.1/2. It even appears to sport it's original Savage Mk.1 rear sight as the battle apertures are very distinct looking.
    Very good points, Brian. Could it have been converted to a Mk 1/2 first and then later go through a complete FTR?? Chicken or the egg!

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