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    I killed a 200 pound Blacktail deer at 100 yards (97 long paces) with a single shot from my carbine. It was a heart-lung shot. Sprang 30 yards and dropped dead right there. Exit wound was big enough to scrunch my thumb and four fingers into. IIRC, it was a 110 R-P JSP, or possibly a WW 110 JHP. I used both then, but the HPs were finicky about feeding. The heart was devastated. I really appreciated it as a LEO trunk weapon after that!

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    Nice shot and kill. I been using S & B FMJ 110 gr. on those Hogs dropping several while only losing just 2. I also have some traps, but need a couple of people to help empty them. Those *astards will hurt you. I've been hunting Whitetail Deer there all my life and now it's both. Those Hogs are there daily I don't care what day you go you will get some. They have literally destroyed several feeders and tear there way into the Storage. I can't even plant oats to sale anymore cause they will destroy the field in one night. I'm definitely taking those DTX when I get out there again just to see what that projectile will do. We built (with help) a 3 room and kitchen with cinder blocks and it's been there for almost 20 years now. It's ironic my place is in Jim Hogg County, but very lucky it's a couple of miles South East of the 22,000 acre Jones Game Ranch. I've invited Jim (BAR) to come I have some firearms that could use some upgrading. The only thing I don't do no more in the Summer is clean them. There full of fleas and ticks. I drive into town and there always someone there willing to do that for 20 bucks.

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    I hope somebody makes an interesting gun that uses .30 Carbine. Olympic made an AR chambered for it but it didn't sell - I wish I had known about that. I would make a SBR out of it.

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    Making a .30 carbine AR wouldn't be hard. Olympic had barrel blanks there in stock and the rifling machines had boxes of blanks at the end of each. You could get a blank done and go ahead with it...even if you just started with a rifled blank and went from there...wouldn't be hard. Did we find it used standard mags? I know we discussed this before...

    Matter of fact, here's a thread from outside that shows you some pics. OA2.org View topic - Oly 30 carbine rifle
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    If im not mistaken i think they only made 100 of these in 2000 or 2002 and only 50 were sold to the public. I have a friend who retired from the Air Force who had one and when he tried to sale the rifle it took him awhile. The only reason i remembered now was he use to say he wished he never sold it. If this is true where did the other 50 go. It's crazy cause when i offered to buy one of his M1icon Carbines when i got bit the Carbine bug he use to tell me the story about his until i just read Inland44 post.

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    Don't know how many they made, I'd start from scratch. Don't think it would be that hard, the AR is very forgiving. Look at how many calibers it's in now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imarangemaster View Post
    I like the article, EXCEPT he compares the 30 carbine to a 357 magnum. A 30 carbine still has more energy at 100 yards than the average .357 magnum load does at the muzzle. Hornady 110 Critical defense moves at about 2000fps and it absolutely devastating. I am thinking of getting a couple boxes and loading out the carbine with them for my house weapon. Also, Speer Gold dot 100s are pretty darn good, too. Even the venerable Remington 110 JSPs I've used to kill deer well at 100 yards.
    I've heard arguments pro and con about hunting with 30 cal carbine. I've never hunted with it but I think you should be able to drop most N American game. As with all methods of hunting, it's all about shot placement and I'm sure you're very accurate and know where the kill zone is imarangemaster.

    I bet it would be a blast pig hunting with a carbine. Pigs have about taken over here in Texas.


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    Looks like BBQ in the making...
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    Nice Hog....I like to hear the Story.

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    My favorite M1icon carbine picture!



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    Quote Originally Posted by imntxs564 View Post
    Nice Hog....I like to hear the Story.
    Me too! I may be a pretty fair rifleman, but I can't hit the broad side of a barn with a bow and arrow, even 15 yards away.

    When I was a young buck in the early 1970s, I did a LOT of pig hunting (mostly Black Russians and Russianicon/feral cross) in California in the Los Padres National Forest and the Salinas Valley where the pigs come down from the hills and destroy crops. I used a No 4 Mk I sporterized .303 Britishicon with Federals now extinct 215 grain load. Towards the end, I switched to a Ruger 44 Mag Carbine loaded with Norma 240 grain rifle rounds. That little Ruger 44 Carbine was a pig thumping SOB! I wish I still had it.
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