1944 Inland

[Detroit-1]

The carbine I will be looking at today is a 4-44 Inland. The barrel to me is blued. All markings are clear 4-44 ,P,Inland General Motors. The gun looks like it is all original. Correct non sanded stock. Rear sight milled adj. Barrel is smooth. Did Inland ever in that time frame blue their barrels?

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[deldriver]

No, it should be parkerized. There were some blued Inland barrels and receivers early in production, but they phased that out in the Spring of 43 for the most part. Later on, Inland barrels were a dark greenish color bordering on black. If you have any doubts about original Inland barrel finish then take the stock off and look at the area right in front of the gas cylinder to see if there's a shadow there where the barrel band was pulled all the way back and then finished. Does this Inland have a type two barrel band on it or a bayonet lug?

[Detroit-1]

I bought the gun today. The barrel is blued or black park. All the parts trigger group, hammer, blued bolt, blued trigger, slide, stock, are correct for the time and marked Inland. Had a carbine collecter look at the gun. He said his two Inlands were also dark blued or black park. Has push button safety. Will post pictures on Gun Boards this week. If barrel is not correct I hope I didn't pay to much. I got it with a Inland 15 and two after market 30 round mags. 70 rounds ammo and a repo case. 900.00. Barrel gauges .5.

[604flyer]

Don't be in a hurry to change it out. The park should be dark, almost black in color. The lower portions of the receiver and the barrel from the receiver to the gas cylinder will usually have a glossy finish that will look like its blued. It seems Inland did not media blast those areas thus the upper surfaces of the receiver and barrel from the gas cylinder to the front sight will have a rougher, almost frosty look to the parked finish. Inland made the switch from Dulite to parkerizing sometime early in 1943.

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

Serial number?

[USGI]

Does this Inland have a type two barrel band on it or a bayonet lug?

Also, would like to know the marking on the barrel band. Does it have an R front sight? Thanks! - Bob

[deldriver]

I bought the gun today. The barrel is blued or black park. All the parts trigger group, hammer, blued bolt, blued trigger, slide, stock, are correct for the time and marked Inland. Had a carbine collecter look at the gun. He said his two Inlands were also dark blued or black park. Has push button safety. Will post pictures on Gun Boards this week. If barrel is not correct I hope I didn't pay to much. I got it with a Inland 15 and two after market 30 round mags. 70 rounds ammo and a repo case. 900.00. Barrel gauges .5.

Post some pictures on the site here if you can. Lots of changes were going on when this carbine was made or had just been made. It's often healthy to have more than one person look at a rifle like this to get an objective opinion.

[DaveHH]

Here is an example of an 8-44 inland barrel with original finish. You will notice the shadow of where the band was placed at the junction of the barrel and the gas cylinder when the unit was finished. Taken indoors, this finish would be almost black. This is a 5.4M Inland. CC issue #361 has a wonderful article on these inlands made in 1944 written by Chris Albright. It will give you all you need to know about your carbine.

[Detroit-1]

N marked front sight. Type 2 barrel band with a triangle with two lines. Serial # 5,120,746. M no line marked mag release. 4-44 barrel.

[new2brass]

Notice the flat finish on DaveHH picture. If shiny or smooth then may be a Bavarian return.
If so swing over to the Bavarian carbine page for where to find lots of information.