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|That's nice to see you back Peregrine. Where've you been?
The flat steel Sten butts were quite common in service but the many variables made Mk5 butt configurations a bit of a nightmare. Short stock bolts, long stock bolts, long bolts with spacers, different angles of this and that........ The flat steel butt plates always seemed to bend away from the toe of the butt for some reason. That way it'd let water and crud get between the steel and wood. Mind you, the Mk5 Sten was as good as it got.
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04-15-2016 09:48 AM
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What I haven't heard any-one pick-up on yet on these new E.U. De-Ac Laws, if they do indeed end up being brought in across Europe, is that it will be presumably legal to import and sell de-activated weapons into the United Kingdom that haven't first gone through a U.K. Proof House??? If it's a common de-ac spec/law across the E.U. then presumably the weapon only needs to pass through one E.U. Proof House to be legally sold in any E.U. country? Is any-one able to confirm that this is likely to be the case if the new E.U. de-ac laws are brought in, please?
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As I understand this continental mess that has been brought down on the trade and collectors, the idea is a standard and certificate that will be used by all EU states, so it should mean free movement of deacs, we will see.... Unfortunately these deacs (in the case of Sec5 types) will be welded up lumps and of little interest to most collectors, only suitable for wall hangers.
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If that is correct, I can't see that Chief Constables will very pleased if de-activated weapons start being imported and sold into the United Kingdom that first haven't gone through a U.K. Proof House?
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They already CAN be traded freely! It would be in breech of the fundamental principle of the EU, that of free trade if you couldn't. Same as the current standardised proofing weapons and ammo CIP.
Added later after speaking to sister. But if you bring a foreign proofed EU deact in you are obliged/must declare it as it comes under the blanket of 'firearms'. I suggested that it's not now a firearm. But, alas, it might not be in that part of Europe it could still not quite conform to our legislation.
Last edited by Peter Laidler; 04-16-2016 at 04:24 AM.
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Looking through the net earlier and found a piece written by a Solicitor on the Deactivated weapon association, more of an extended version of what Peter mentions in post #13, I assume some traders are going by this and a few private sellers too, so its not to late and still plenty of Stens left .......
http://media.wix.com/ugd/957eb3_ec6b...b95963ce52.pdf
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Ok thanks for that. There still seems to be some doubt if the new laws will actually be brought in?
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Guess what........ Until they are enacted, the old laws reign supreme.
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|That's nice to see you back Peregrine. Where've you been?
Hi Peter,
Thank you. I check in on here quite regularly, I was just waiting for the right thread to contribute to.
The new EU deactivation specifications can be found here:
L_2015333EN.01006201.xml
Although being rushed and badly drafted / translated, the process is still ongoing with the Proof Houses etc. to agree how these will be practically implemented into the UK.
As mentioned, the specs for full-autos are pretty unpleasant: welded solid and either permanently attached magazines or blocked magazine housings. Yuck...
Mark
Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night;
God said "Let Newton be!" and all was light.
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A break in the weather so fired up the Phos tank, not much of break as soon temp was nearly there the heavens opened up, still only a shower so not bad, I was quite desperate to get the parts done as they had been blasted a few days earlier..... I,m never keen on doing multiple parts but as this was only a coating and not the final finish not too concerned if it looked pretty or not.
Came out ok, but the big test was the tank I was using as its big, plus no gas gear so resting on hot plates..... worked out quite well.
May get chance later to get some paint on them.
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