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    16-228 Garand Picture of the Day - T35



    This modified M1icon/T35 features a Sanford Integral Magazine which holds ten rounds of .30 cal. T65E3 ammunition. The design was produced and tested in 1953-54 and demonstrates the adaptability of John Garand’s design.
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    Interesting that they'd use Johnston's magazine design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Interesting that they'd use Johnston's magazine design.
    There is a Johnson Mag Garand at S.A.N.H.S but this one is a Sanford Integral Magazine





    Another side loading integral magazine was tested, a derivative of Melvin Johnson’s rotary magazine. This was built by Olin Industries in 1952/53 and was tested in April 1954. It was reported that converting existing M1icon Garands to use the rotary magazine would have been “exceedingly difficult and probably impractical.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark in Rochester View Post
    Sanford Integral Magazine
    Another new one for me...not so successful we may take it...?
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    I'll hazard a guess here. Seeing the 1954 date on the picture, I would say it was successful but too late to the party when detachable magazines were coming into vogue.

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    The T35 Side-Loading Garand

    In 1951/52 Springfield Armory began experimenting with rechambering the M1icon Garand in the new T65E3 (light rifle) cartridge. As part of these experiments several alternate feed and magazine systems were also tested. In order to rechamber a standard M1 in the new cartridge the barrel was replaced and a machined aluminum filler block was placed in the breech to compensate for the shorter length of the new cartridge.

    Roy S. Sanford & Company of Oakville, Connecticut were contracted by the Springfield Armory to develop a 10-round integral side loading magazine for the M1 Garand chambered in the T65E3 round then under testing. The magazine was to be an integral precision made part of the rifle which could be reloaded using an inexpensive clip. Differing from the standard M1 the new system was to allow the topping off of the magazine.

    The Sanford Integral Magazine was developed by Roy S. Sanford a prolific engineer who also patented a number of belt-feed systems. At least two test bed T35 Garands were adapted to fit the new side magazine. This saw a number of changes including the vertical alignment of the charging handle and the addition of a large hump on the fore stock to provide a place for the large magazine housing which jutted out of the rifle’s receiver

    The Sanford Integral Magazine rifle was tested at the Springfield Armory at the beginning of 1954 with a total of 313 rounds fire. During the 100 round function test the rifle was found to be difficult to load with clips. There were also concerns about the rigidity of the stock. While the weapon was said to have functioned satisfactorily the final report published in August 1954 deemed that the magazine system had several undesirable features which made it unacceptable. As a result it was decided that the side-loading integral magazine was not militarily suitable.


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    T65 Cartridge

    IIRC the T65 was designated 7.62mm -- by the E3 it was about finalized.
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    pre 7,62 E 3 cartridges

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    left to right FA 48, FA 46 (300 Savage case), FA 49, FA 50, 300 Savage and FA 48

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