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    Request 1938 Ammo Identification

    A friend gave me these two clips of ammo and I've been curious what they are for.
    There are many knowledgeable gentlemen on this forum and I hope someone can shed some light.

    Thank you in advance.
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    It is for an 8x56R Hungarianicon Mannlicher rifle.

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    The 8x56R (Model 30 cartridge) was developed by the Austrians as a means of getting more power from their M1895 "straight-pull" Mannlicher rifles, which were chambered for the Model 1888/1893 cartridge (8x50R). In the 1930's, they converted most of those rifles to the new round and designated them Model 95/30. The clip was the same. To complete the answer, Stück means "pieces", scharfe means bulleted rounds (as opposed to a blank), and Patronen means cartridges.

    Your cartridges were made by Rottweil in December 1938, after the German annexation of Austria in March of that year; note the red S to make sure they were not mistaken for the old 8x50R round, which was still in service with reserve units. (The new round wouldn't fit in the old guns, but it would jam.)

    The Hungarians also used the M95 since it had been adopted when Hungaryicon was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Hungary converted their M95s to the new cartridge and also designed a bolt action rifle, the Model 1935, to use the Model 30 cartridge and clip. After the alliance with Germanyicon, Hungary modified the M35 rifle to use the German 7.9 cartridge with a Mauser-type magazine and Mauser clips.

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    Thank you gentleman!
    I've had these for a year or so and never ID'd them. I was just cleaning out the bottom of my gun cabinet last night and ran across them again
    If anyone has one of these rifles or just wants these clips, just respond. They were given to me and I don't need them for anything but they're interesting.

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