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    Does anybody have some good pictures of the C1A1 slings. I've been told there are a number of variations. I'm looking for the one with the metal ends and heavy buckles. Anyone got one of these they want to sell pls PM.
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    The Canadianicon used two types of slings for the C1/C2 series of rifles. The first was the typical Britishicon Lee-Enfield type sling. The second type is referred to by civilian as the Pattern 1982 type sling it is green and has plastic (2) slide buckles. Go here for some information http://www.rollanet.org/~stacyw/canada_c1a1_sling.htm . Marstar in Canadian advertises C1 slings but they consider both types C1 slings so you may get either one when you order.

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    The webbing rifle sling was very probably the most versatile bit of kit ever invented. Every squaddy had a spare one wrapped around his kit somewhere. That and maybe the thinner Sterling SMG sling.....so long as you don't rely on the brass snap-hook!

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    "...Sterling SMG sling..." Use one of those on my 870. Works just fine.
    Marstar lists C1 and C2 slings. $27 and $30 Cdn respectively. Lot of money for a sling.
    "...Every squaddy had a spare one..." Maybe in the Regs, but not the Reserves. One per customer. And signed for.
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    I think I would have to disagree with the "84 pattern" designation for that sling.

    There were two variations on the C1 slings that I know of. When the rifle first came out in the latter half of the 50s, it had a green sling with metal buckles. These were actual buckles and not merely a green Enfield sling. In the early 60s, Canadaicon started using a new pattern of webbing (64 pattern) which generally featured a rubberized canvas, velcro, and plastic buckles. The second FN sling was based on that pattern of webbing and had the plastic buckles.

    There are references to a third sling in Blake Steven's early book on the FNs where there was a section of padding in the sling. This is not an official variation, but rather an adaptation of the shoulder strap from the 64 pattern rucksack being added to the standard sling.

    I have both patterns of sling in my FN collection, but I am currently working overseas at Kandahar airfield, so photos would have to wait a few weeks until I get home.

    Edited to add that there is of course a third variation to the C1 sling, and that was the parade sling. White rubber(?) with velcro at each end to adjust and secure it. Certainly not the kind of sling you would actually use as a sling.
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    Stay safe out there Sten Collector. The natives are pretty restless. Kind thoughts.

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    Thanks Peter, but I am pretty safe where I am.

    I am ex military working a civilian position on Kandahar Airfield only. I do not get to leave the gates, other than to fly in and fly out.The locals do seem to delight in firing the odd winger at us. However, since most of the ordnance they seem to scrounge up are soviet leftovers from the 80s, the majority are duds, and most of the rest land out on the tarmac. The guidance systems are of the "point-it-thataway" type. Even so, we have still had a couple close ones.

    My thoughts are with the military guys and gals who routinely do the patrols and convoys in the area. Their sitrep is not quite as mellow as mine.

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    Stencollector, send me a PM with your email and next time I pass through we can discuss LE's

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    Here are a couple crappy photos of the FN slings. These will have to do until I get back to civilization. The C1 has a plastic buckle 64 pattern type sling while the C2 has the earlier metal buckle patter, more akin to the 51 pattern of webbing.


    Note that in the photo above I did not make the messy weld. Mind you the camera makes it worse than it is. I have since replaced the lower to clean up the embarrassing burn mark.

    I have recently bought another C1A1 so that I can dress it up in the parade garb (white sling and chrome bayonet). I will need a few more FNs yet for the various Canadianicon issued sniper and night scope variations. The accessories don't look like much without the gun.

    RGG7: If you still need one of the metal buckled slings, shoot me a PM. I know a guy in Saskatchewan who may have a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgg_7 View Post
    Does anybody have some good pictures of the C1A1 slings. I've been told there are a number of variations. I'm looking for the one with the metal ends and heavy buckles. Anyone got one of these they want to sell pls PM.

    Here are some pics of the Slings your interested in:-

    The first type was the common Lee Enfield Sling (NSN 1005-21-103-1156)


    Then the C1 model (as marked on the sling) (metal buckles, 55 inches lg) entered service (NSN 1005-21-102-3781)


    Followed by the later plastic buckled model, (56.5 inches lg) Sling (NSN 1005-21-102-3781)
    Last edited by nzl1a1collector; 01-03-2011 at 03:31 AM.

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