I am considering buying a Dutch No5 1939 dated carbine with out a handguard. Did the Dutch manufacture them with or without a hand guard. The Dutch museum has photos of the carbine in both variations, but I cannot translate the text. Thank you.
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I am considering buying a Dutch No5 1939 dated carbine with out a handguard. Did the Dutch manufacture them with or without a hand guard. The Dutch museum has photos of the carbine in both variations, but I cannot translate the text. Thank you.
marks67rover,
Copy the url and paste it into google.
Google will find the page and offer a link to translate it.
I take it you are looking on Legermuseum?
The Dutch made a number of carbines without hand guards.
Good luck
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Copy and paste this URL into google
After google finds it pick translate this page.
http://www.collectie.legermuseum.nl/...n/i004810.html
Many thanks to ireload2 for the link!
Herewith an amateur translation that gives the gist:
Ingevoerd in 1938 om in een tekort aan karabijnen bij de regimenten motorartillerie en de brigade luchtdoelartillerie te voorzien.
"Introduced in 1938...for motorized artillery and anti-aircraft units."
Aangezien op dat moment ruim voldoende geweren voorhanden waren, werden de karabijnen uit de geweren gemaakt.
"Made out of full-length rifles, of which there were plenty available."
Later ook bij andere onderdelen gebruikt. Belangrijkste kenmerken zijn de met hout opgevulde ligplaatsen voor de oude kordonbeugels en de opgesoldeerde kordonbeugel op de bovenband.
"Later used by other units. Most noticeable feature is the wooden plug fitted in to the slot previously occupied by the old sling swivel (i.e. from the infantry rifle) and the sling swivel soldered onto the upper band."
Produktie omstreeks 36.000 stuks.
"Total production 36,000."
De twee hier getoonde exemplaren verschillen van elkaar aangezien de ene wel, en de andere geen handbeschermer heeft. Beiden dragen een afnamestempel uit 1940.
"The two examples shown here ... one with, one without handguard ... Both bear an acceptance stamp from 1940."
(Because of the German invasion, 1940 was the last production year at the Hembrug factory)
References: Scarlata "Collecting Classic Bolt Action Military Rifles" and "Mannlicher Militay Rifles", both published by Mowbray.
From the drawing on P.128 of the "Mannlicher.." book, it seems that all the carbine types were made with handguards. So the one without handguard could have lost it later, or it could have left the factory that way because of wartime exigencies. I have no idea how you could tell the difference, since in both cases the carbine was made from an infantry rifle that definitely would have had a handguard.
Patrick
Dank u ' s geeft nog meer informatie aan dit geweer ?
Thank you is there any more information on internet to this rifle?
I never seen or heard something about this rifle. Very interresting.
Regards
Gunner
Gunner, as you also have a 96/11, I really recommend that you get the Mannlicher book*, as it covers all the related types of straight-pull rifles, including the schmidt-Rubins.
Patrick
*ISBN: 1-931464-14-6
Patrick, thanks for the tip. Didn`t have the book but it won`t take long till i have it.
Gunner
Here is a link to the Legermuseum index for Dutch rifles, carbines and the associated items. Goggle can translate the pages from the Dutch but the translation is sometimes a bit rough.
http://www.collectie.legermuseum.nl/strategion/strategion/i003514.html
I like this photo shown under munition
Patroonhouder
http://www.collectie.legermuseum.nl/...676-450kic.bmp
Bedankt voor de Link !
Thank you for the link !
Gunner