West German or Austrian BEECHWOOD Stock set

I just bought a Bavarian Rural Police Inland M1 Carbine.Only the receiver is Inland and just about all the rest of the parts are seemingly early Underwood if one goes by the dogleg hammer.It's a six digit (600K) receiver and has one of those German receiver ring mounted square notch rear sights with a filler plate in the receiver dovetail.I am looking for a replacement sight.Really odd that nearly everything is Underwood at least in my experience.I readily admit to my NOT being anything that resembles even a newbie with M1 Carbines.

Until it arrived here on my doorstep I had never even heard of, let alone seen a (German made ?) light coloured beech HIGH WOOD stock and matching handguard.Not a mark on them either with the exception of the last 4 digits of the Receiver S/N.A trifle thicker on the sides than the US made stocks and very well made indeed.

Have any of you ever seen or heard of these before ?

Anyone have any ideas as to value for the matching set ?I am torn between 'restoring' the rifle or just leaving well enough alone.I could be induced into swapping all the Underwood bits for Inland too I suppose starting with the dog leg hammer.

If anyone wants to discuss things off forum shoot me an e-mail to:

robertsonyvr@telus.net

Rifle came with 712 rds of assorted .30 Carbine ammo too.400 rds of West German GECO Ball.A pristine box of LC 43 and an even pristiner box of WCC 45 with 212 rds of assorted rds including some of what I think is that French corrosive stuff.All in all I have NO complaints(I don't think)

Cheers all,

JR

You have a carbine with fairly unique history, don't "restore" it. If you want a restored or "original" carbine, put this one up for sale and find another. Or keep this one for it's uniqueness and buy another. (That's how collections start.)

JMHO


Mike

I should have mentioned that any real collector value went out the window when a 19 inch commercial barrel was installed on the receiver to meet Canada's restriction on barrel lengths.This was done in Europe as the rifle has German commercial proof marks on the barrel and receiver.

I bought the rifle because it can be taken out for plinking and came with 712 rds of ball ammo.I can't see the rear sight(one of those German square notch setups sweated onto the receiver ring BUT can be easily removed without damaging anything.

I have a set of US GI Inland wood as it happens and since bebopping around on my 160 acres is in the rifle's future as is banging off all the ammo except probably the 100 rds of original WWII boxed LC-43 and WCC-45 stuff.The Underwood bolt is numbered to the Inland six digit receiver so it stays.All the rest of the Underwood parts like the slide and trigger housing and recoil plate etc are available to anyone here who wants to trade for the proper Inland made parts in serviceable NON-rusted/pitted condition(George Liakos need not respond NOR Arlen T.Pendergast either come to think of it).I will NOT be removing any valueable artifact from Carbine collecting by doing this.

I ALSO have A Bavarian Rural Police marked 1.8 mil S'G' which IS being restored (sort of) but it IS in the Restricted Class and can't be taken out to shoot without a convey permit due to the short barrel(i.e., a safe queen).

I hope that I have explaine my rationale re the Inland now.Should anyone need any of the parts mentioned my e-mail is to be found in my original post.
Now I need to do some work here.

Cheers all.

JR

I am now reliably informed by James Mock that the beechwood stock set and receiver ring rear sight make the rifle a Bavarian Rural Police although as per Jim's research the Bavarian markings were removed and 'some sort of black stuff'used to cover the signs of "surgery".I also took a good look at the receiver markings and found out that all the Underwood parts are correct to for the rifle.I had never looked closely at anything but the serial number and the Inland Div only in passing.A closer look this morning disclosed that the INLAND DIV has been "lined out" and there is a U. above the lined out Inland Div.All I need now are a Underwood trigger and sear and a mag catch and maybe a safety IF they were .U. or U. marked.

The 19 inch commercial barrel sort of kills any real collector value I suppose but Jim Mock tells me that the absolutely mint high wood Bavarian stock and handguard are right for the rifle as Bavarian police Issue.

I would like to thank both Jim Mock and Bruce McAskill again for all their kind help.I am NOT a Carbine person but have been collecting Garands and Canadian made or issued Lee-Enfields since I was 15 years old.I was REALLY into machineguns in my younger days but now only have one M1928A1 (in reality a Commercial Savage Model of 1928 that has been overstruck with a "M" and a "A1" and military acceptance marks) and I suppose if you believe the enemy my M14NM( a REAL SA) which I do NOT as M14NM's were NEVER "machineguns" except in their wet dreams.

I have owned M1 and M2 Carbines in the past and have shot literally hundreds of jackrabbits in Northern Ontario with a M2 back in the "good old days".Trying to get serious about collecting M1 Carbines in Canada where they are restricted weapons for the most part;would be akin to hitting yourself on the cranium with a 5 pound hammer 'cause it feels so GOOD when you stop.I'll try to scare up the few NON Underwood parts that the rifle"needs" and then just call it good and enjoy plinking with it.Again my thanks for everyone's help.

Cheers,

John R.