Khyber Enfield markings

Hi guys,

This is my first posting on the board. I have a Khyber Enfield (at least I think it is) that I picked up earlier this year. Hopefully you guys could possibly shed some light on the various markings found on the rifle. The gentleman I purchased it from said he bought it from someone in 1988 who said it came from Pakistan. Maybe the markings could back up his claim? Also, this is nothing more than a "curiosity" piece. I never plan to shoot it. Thanks for any help you guys can provide!

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01175-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01176-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01178-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01186-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01187-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01188-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01190-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01183-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01184-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01180-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC01182-1.jpg

I'd definitely say that's a Khyber special. The 'quality' of construction alone screams a build from that region. Notice the lack of uniformity on the notches on the rear sight for the increments. (that's just one thing that jumps out at ya) Interesting piece, nonetheless. Some of these copies never cease to amaze me!

I just find it amazing how they build a reasonable facsimile of an SMLE by hand, given the number of intricately shaped parts required.

Last time I was up in the workshops area, much of the piece work was being done by men and boys - who were filing away at lumps of metal clamped between their feet, as they sat on the ground.....

Would the markings on the butt-stock have any meaning?
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SCA

It also has CSA and SC markings on various other places on the stock? Maybe this piece managed to travel back into time and belonged to a South Carolina unit during the Civil War? :lol:

For anyone who may have missed it ...

With thanks to member Steve H. in N.Y., we've added a new entry to the United Kingdom - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)

“Khyber Pass” Lee-Enfield No.I Mk.III* Rifle (click here)

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Article extract …..

The Khyber Pass is a border region between Afghanistan and Pakistan known for it’s local weapons industry, notably the often crude manufacture of copies of well known firearms including Lee-Enfield rifles. These “KP Special” Enfields were fairly rare here in the USA until 2007 when a quantity were imported, then they turned up in dealers’ racks and on several web sites. Unfortunately, the rifles were not always advertised as what they really were with their false markings, dubious quality and general unsuitability for firing live ammunition.

Samples from 30 picture photo montage …

http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerd.../icons/KP9.jpg(Click PIC to Enlarge)http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerd...icons/KP12.jpg(Click PIC to Enlarge)http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerd...icons/KP14.jpg

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Regards,
Doug

Outstanding. Everyone of them is unique.

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Originally Posted by Thunderbox

I just find it amazing how they build a reasonable facsimile of an SMLE by hand, given the number of intricately shaped parts required.

Last time I was up in the workshops area, much of the piece work was being done by men and boys - who were filing away at lumps of metal clamped between their feet, as they sat on the ground.....

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Just think waht they could do with a modern fully equiped workshop.

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Originally Posted by bigduke6

Just think waht they could do with a modern fully equiped workshop.

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I've read accounts recently that hinted at an influx of more modern tooling/equipment into the region. This apparently includes engraving equipment that produces startlingly good facsimiles of British markings.

"I never plan to shoot it".................................................. .................................................. .. Good choice !!! :clap:

Great find. Many thanks for sharing it with us all!!!