Value (trade value) Pre WWII German sniper

Admittedly, I have absolutely NO knowledge of german bolt action rifles, let alone sniper configurations. Looking for some constructive feedback on this rifle and scope set up. The description I have is that this is a pre-WWII german made Mauser with a rare double claw scope mount set up with a pre-WWII Hensoldt scope. The barrel is a replacement, but replaced with a proper pre-WWII barrel. Furniture is also a replacement. I think it is a beauty, but have been offered it as a straight across trade for a 1944 No.4 MKI T with non-matching scope (mk1 factory converted to mk2) and mount...plus repro scope tin. I am asking $3000.00 for my rifle and kit and really need to know if this would be a good trade or not.

As always, greatly appreciate this forum and all the gathering of knowledge...and the occasional wise-crack:mad smile:

Thnx folks,
Regards,
Ian

Here is a link to the pics.
http://http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c376/ickmann/

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Originally Posted by ickmann

Thnx folks,
Regards,
Ian

Here is a link to the pics.
http://http://s31.photobucket.com/al...0germansniper/

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You made the photo's private, so the link is blank page asking for log in. Sorry can't see pic at all. Try to paste your pics IMG code in here so we can see the pic here instead.

Thnx for that. Album is now open for public viewing.

Ian

Lets see if I got this right, you say somebody is willing to trade you that Mauser for a Genuine No4 T? I would'nt do it. Too many things that don't look right bout the Mauser. JMO

Laminated stock does not correspond with a converted (/shortened) Gew 98, except for the SS. But they did not have the bolt bent such strangely. Appears to be a after WWII conversion for hunting.

That rifle was "MADE" into a sniper rifle. The Germans didn't bend their bolts. The Stock should be Walnut not laminated. And it doesn't even have the original barrel. The germans selected which Mauser 's were going to be converted into sniper rifles by picking the most accurate Mauser's out of the pile. They didn't change their barrels on their sniper rifles. If they did change a Mauser's barrel it will have a star stamped into the receiver which indicates an armorer worked on it. Of course I could be wrong. Ask my wife happens all the time. It's a nice looking rifle with a nice scope.

With that mount he didn't need to bend the bolt. It why their mount's sit so high.

Well, they do changed barrels on K98k, but not for turning them into snipers. It might be too far off this topic, but I've just recently handled an S/237 dating 1937 made K98k which was sent to Steyr for overhaul. The rifle received a new Steyr made barrel with a matching S/N plus hand marked "BNZ" on the receiver and was then given to the SS (proven by a single rune on the receiver aswell). Though this may sound too curious now, this rifle is really genuine and belongs to a collector since WWII.

Also, the Germans DID bent the bolt - but only when converting a Gewehr 98 to a K98 (which they did for example for the early SS rifles with deaths heads).

Your right about the Gewehr but it didn't look like that. To me that's obviously a commercial 98 gunsmiths work. Yes they would change anything to overhaul a standard K98. And the armor would stamp the part with the serial number if so equipped, Install a part marked e and then stamp a star. Or a combination of. ( It seems everyone did it differently as they did them on the unit level, division and corps level of the army so I have read.

K98 collecting has gotten retarded as They now sell the stamps made in Austria. Everything is faked. I bet 90 percent of the matching rifles out there were a parts bin project. I don't think I would spend the money again on an all matching unless the guy selling it was the guy that brought it back..lol AND could back it up

Well, they do appear here from time to time, but no wonder as I live quite close to where the original Steyr production was. Just been in the "Nibelungen Werke" fairly recently, you can still find tank parts there ;)

Appreciate all the input/feedback. I ended up telling the owner that I decided not to trade my T for it. I think he was mad at my decision and became a bit spiteful, as his e-mail response to me was that he was glad that I did not follow through with the trade due to the fact that he had done some "research" on my scope number and rifle serial number. Because of what he "found out" he stated that I should lower my asking price by $1000 and then I should have no problem selling my rifle( golly gee..really ??) I guess his $3400 (by his statement) german sniper was far superior to my lowly '44 T. By far this was the most amusement I have had in a while.

Th,Th,Th,Th,Th.. That's all folks!