Opinions on this Saginaw

I got this from a buddy at work and had some questions. It is a Saginaw with Marlin barrel. Bolt and Op slide are Inland. Trigger housing is Winchester. The receiver was badly pitted, and than Parkerized. It has no Import marks, and I have no idea where it came from. It does have a pot belly stock, bayo lug & other post WWII rebuild parts.

Based on the condition of the receiver, is this something the US military would have kept in service? Or could this have been refinished by another nation? Is there any problem with shooting this with the receiver so pitted?

Anyone know what the 9 on the housing stands for?

The only mark on the stock is a number 3 on the heel. Anyone know of any Country that marked M1 carbines this way? There is no signs of Korean marks on the stock.

Thanks.

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I'm sure US armorers would not let a receiver like that stay in service. That point alone says it's from overseas to me. The mixed parts could have been done in one of our arsenals before a lend lease or give a way deal.

Maybe look around for an import marking?

I was just reading earlier today about some US M1 Carbine receivers that were brought in from the Phillipines during the 1980's. Some were used in Federal Ordnance carbines, and some ended up at Sarco, and were sold to the public. The full story is at the M1 Carbines Incorporated website. http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_FedOrd.html Some of the receivers are pictured and look pretty rough. If it were one of these, it should have an import mark on the left side though. - Bob

Couldn't find any import marks anywhere. I read one of the aftermarket builder from the 50-60's got there hands on some scrap receivers. Could have been one of those? My buddy shot it without problem.

That receiver looks a lot like some that SOG was selling for the past couple of years. Some of them were in real rough shape like this one is. If so the import markings would have been on the barrels and not the receivers. I think the receiver is S'G' made and the Marlin barrel could be correct for it.

What do you guys think of the shootability of this. I'm getting alot of no from the other site.
I'm not so worried about the integrity of the spring guide area, as QHC are completely missing in this area, but I'm not sure about the overall intergrity with the pitting on the side.

I would not shoot it !!!!
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Here's some more pics of one side. I've looked this over very well and personally don't think it's too bad. The other pics I posted may have made it look worse than it actually is. I wasn't so concerned about the spring area, as this area is completely missing on Quality Hardware receivers.

Thanks for all those that responded. I'm still undecided on what to do with this. I may try and trade it back to the guy at work I got it from and let it be his problem.

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Traded it back to my buddy at work and advised him it probably isn't safe to shoot.

If he put it against a 100 yd target with big enough berm, it might be safe to shoot it. :o At it, that is.