Ppsh 43

Not sure if this is the right section, but here goes. I was able to stop by the gun show today before it closed, and was walking around when I noticed a PPSH 43 laying on a table with a price tag of $487. I wasn't able to get pictures, but I was curious of what these usually go for price wise, what to look for, etc, in case it's still there at the next gun show. The gun was all black metal, with a folding metal stock. Not the wooden variant.


M1/M3 Carbine: late '44 Inland
M1 Garand: late '44 Springfield

http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/ Tom Bowers usually has something around to compare with...

This thing?

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...tuff0031-1.jpg

Price seems kinda high. But I wasn't really paying attention when I got this one. Stock is welded closed so that it is really a big clunky pistol. Closed bolt. Semi-auto only. All to keep the US BATF&E happy. Loses a lot in translation from the original, but it looks the part.

The upside is that it's about the best closed bolt conversion with which I've ever dealt. Good trigger pull and the bolt cocking force are both outstanding. Reliability has been 100% and accuracy is good if you can figure out a way to hold the dadgummed thing steady. Not a practical piece, but at least it hints at the original design's utility value. Heavier than a M1 carbine and slightly less powerful. But as a SMG, it was quite good.

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Originally Posted by jmoore

This thing?

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...tuff0031-1.jpg

Price seems kinda high. But I wasn't really paying attention when I got this one. Stock is welded closed so that it is really a big clunky pistol. Closed bolt. Semi-auto only. All to keep the US BATF&E happy. Loses a lot in translation from the original, but it looks the part.

The upside is that it's about the best closed bolt conversion with which I've ever dealt. Good trigger pull and the bolt cocking force are both outstanding. Reliability has been 100% and accuracy is good if you can figure out a way to hold the dadgummed thing steady. Not a practical piece, but at least it hints at the original design's utility value. Heavier than a M1 carbine and slightly less powerful. But as a SMG, it was quite good.

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That's exactly it! I didn't pay attention to where the welds were though. What caliber are these guns anyways?


M1/M3 Carbine: late '44 Inland
M1 Garand: late '44 Springfield

The caliber is the same as the TT'33 Tokarev pistol. 7,62x25mm

More or less the same as the old C'96 Mauser pistol round, but different.

The legend is that the PPS43 was designed in short order, produced (using chunks of Moisin Nagant barrel) and handed to the troops fighting around the factory. Regardless, the Russians were in thick of the fighting like no other Allied nation during WWII.

bought one and checked it out. I understand how good the pps43c is. Well made by Radom of Poland. It is sold in the U.S. as a pistol. I am re barreling to 17' to give me a 30 Mauser rifle. Won't use the issue magazine because it holds 35 rounds making it illegal in Ohio. Have to adapt an 8 round TT33. It will be interesting. gary

We did the conversions to 9mm here. I still have a spare barrel for 9mm and the mags feed just fine.