CAI SPORTER could be mine:

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02-01-2013, 09:23 PM
drweiler

CAI SPORTER could be mine:

CAI SPORTER C1089, not another english mark on it, '960-2302 B62' on slide, some 'cyrillic' letters here and there, a friend suspects Israeli. Some research suggests it's not a 'top shelf' FNFAL, however there must be some value? What think you shooter/collectors? Thanks, Don

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02-03-2013, 12:15 PM
Peter Laidler

When you say the 'slide' do you mean the breech block carrier? If so, the '960-2302 B62' is the British NSN and manufacturer (BSA-1962) so on that basis, it's a bitzer. Not that it'd worry me unduly
02-03-2013, 12:52 PM
drweiler

Spot on Peter, sorry about the poor nomenclature. A friend here in the valley reckons it's worth $600 to $1000. I'm wintering in Arizona, stay warm. Cheers, Don

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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

When you say the 'slide' do you mean the breech block carrier? If so, the '960-2302 B62' is the British NSN and manufacturer (BSA-1962) so on that basis, it's a bitzer. Not that it'd worry me unduly
02-03-2013, 07:23 PM
Midmichigun

drweiler,
I have a STG58, so don't pretend to be an expert on FAL's.

But I suspect that what you have is a Israeli kit built on a CAI receiver. Other parts may have been swapped... but it looks overall like an Izzy.
The good news is that it looks to be an Izzy HB... the bad news is that its on a CAI receiver. Pretty obvious as you have already noted this.

Izzy kit parts have gone up drastically over the last few years. If I found a functioning FAL right now for $600.00... I would snag it... especially as I find an Izzy as something that I want.

The CAI receiver isn't a big deal to some folks. As you can imagine, CAI quality fluctuated... and the end user generally made adjustments to make sure it fired. I don't think yours was professionally assembled, since I see the lower receiver hasn't been refinished.... but that is just a wild guess. I believe CAI or Enterprise offered a service at one time for rifle assembly... with different levels of build.

I would also look VERY closely at the 922r parts count. This will also ascertain the value.. for mine I swapped out furniture... gas piston and FCG's... etc... I know some folks didn't assemble according to 922r, but as a person who wants to stay within the law.... I certainly would suggest you look for these parts. You appear to have original furniture.....

Do you have the bipod for it? Or is it available for sale? Mags for it?

Generally when it comes to spot pricing in this era of "assault weapon bans" that are being discussed, I would defer you to Gunbroker and see what they sell for... not list for.... what they sell for. If you are that concerned about the CAI receiver, I would price according to the kit/ 922r parts worth.....

BTW, I would have to change out the sling! JMHO!!

Post more pics of this critter, I just love looking at FAL's!!
02-04-2013, 08:59 PM
drweiler

Thanks for your response Midmichigun, sorry can't provide more photos as don't have access to weapon. There was no bipod, only one magazine, and that is a 'butt ugly sling'! Will let you know how things develop, guess I've got to learn about '922r parts' etc. Cheers, Don

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Originally Posted by Midmichigun

drweiler,
I have a STG58, so don't pretend to be an expert on FAL's.

But I suspect that what you have is a Israeli kit built on a CAI receiver. Other parts may have been swapped... but it looks overall like an Izzy.
The good news is that it looks to be an Izzy HB... the bad news is that its on a CAI receiver. Pretty obvious as you have already noted this.

Izzy kit parts have gone up drastically over the last few years. If I found a functioning FAL right now for $600.00... I would snag it... especially as I find an Izzy as something that I want.

The CAI receiver isn't a big deal to some folks. As you can imagine, CAI quality fluctuated... and the end user generally made adjustments to make sure it fired. I don't think yours was professionally assembled, since I see the lower receiver hasn't been refinished.... but that is just a wild guess. I believe CAI or Enterprise offered a service at one time for rifle assembly... with different levels of build.

I would also look VERY closely at the 922r parts count. This will also ascertain the value.. for mine I swapped out furniture... gas piston and FCG's... etc... I know some folks didn't assemble according to 922r, but as a person who wants to stay within the law.... I certainly would suggest you look for these parts. You appear to have original furniture.....

Do you have the bipod for it? Or is it available for sale? Mags for it?

Generally when it comes to spot pricing in this era of "assault weapon bans" that are being discussed, I would defer you to Gunbroker and see what they sell for... not list for.... what they sell for. If you are that concerned about the CAI receiver, I would price according to the kit/ 922r parts worth.....

BTW, I would have to change out the sling! JMHO!!

Post more pics of this critter, I just love looking at FAL's!!
04-20-2013, 07:42 PM
drweiler

Mark at Arizona Response Systems, a respected valley builder, looked at it today, and noted the receiver is Argentine, only imported by CAI, worth $450 standing alone. Yes there is a bipod, but alas, it is missing the hard-to-find gizmo that limits it's travel. Mark is building an L1A1 for me around an Imbel receiver. I've got everything right in the parts kits except correct pebble grain handguard. Soooo, shopping for that gizmo and an L1A1 pebble grain handguard. Cheers, Don
04-21-2013, 11:12 AM
Midmichigun

drweiler,
While you build your L1A1 on that Imbel, are you doing to grab that Argy/ Cai receiver? If indeed it is an Argy, it would be the foundation for a great build! But looks great as your first photos show.
Regardless, post your photos of the Imbel when you get 'er done!!
04-21-2013, 12:43 PM
drweiler

Thank you Midmichigun. I'm leaving Arizona for the summer, while the L1A1 is being built, hope to have hands-on and photos for you on my return in October. Will consider the fate of the CAI-SPORTER over the summer as well. I've been poking around the internet for black, pebble grain, LiA1 hand guard, no joy yet. Semper Fi, Don

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Originally Posted by Midmichigun

drweiler,
While you build your L1A1 on that Imbel, are you doing to grab that Argy/ Cai receiver? If indeed it is an Argy, it would be the foundation for a great build! But looks great as your first photos show.
Regardless, post your photos of the Imbel when you get 'er done!!
05-13-2013, 08:41 AM
drweiler

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Originally Posted by drweiler

Mark at Arizona Response Systems, a respected valley builder, looked at it today, and noted the receiver is Argentine, only imported by CAI, worth $450 standing alone. Yes there is a bipod, but alas, it is missing the hard-to-find gizmo that limits it's travel. Mark is building an L1A1 for me around an Imbel receiver. I've got everything right in the parts kits except correct pebble grain handguard. Soooo, shopping for that gizmo and an L1A1 pebble grain handguard. Cheers, Don

I have completed the bipod/coupler/latch assembly, recently finding the missing latch. I've hidden that ugly sling away, what is the most correct sling for the Izzy HB?
Thanks, Don