Piling swivel for a 1915 SMLE No1 Mk3

Guys I'm looking for a Piling swivel for a 1915 SMLE No1 Mk3 and screw
I understand it must be pre 1918 as the later ones will be too thick to fit in.
Anyone got one spare ?
Cheers
Steve

Never heard of later piling swivels being too thick to fit but the later No4 swivel screws have a different thread to the SMLEs so don't really fit (but can be forced)

The Piling swivel on the right is the type you want but be careful if you want originality, there are a lot of made up piling swivels out there that are cut sling swivels.
The Piling swivel on the left is the later (1920s on) type & is narrower, but fits all earlier rifles.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../08/paw0-1.jpg

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Originally Posted by 5thBatt

Never heard of later piling swivels being too thick to fit but the later No4 swivel screws have a different thread to the SMLEs so don't really fit (but can be forced)

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Although No.4s were never issued with piling swivels and soi it seems a little academic.

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Originally Posted by Beerhunter

Although No.4s were never issued with piling swivels and soi it seems a little academic.

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That i realize Beerhunter but as the op mentioned both a piling swivel & a screw & that something did not fit the earlier rifles, as i dont believe it's the piling swivel, i was thinking they must have been trying a No4 swivel screw.

Stephen
Phil Rose down in the New Forest will have lots of these. He has a large stock of parts for all .303s, as well as complete rifles, and doesn't charge excessively.
PM me and I'll send you his details.
Rob

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Originally Posted by 5thBatt

Never heard of later piling swivels being too thick to fit but the later No4 swivel screws have a different thread to the SMLEs so don't really fit (but can be forced)

The Piling swivel on the right is the type you want but be careful if you want originality, there are a lot of made up piling swivels out there that are cut sling swivels.
The Piling swivel on the left is the later (1920s on) type & is narrower, but fits all earlier rifles.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../08/paw0-1.jpg

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Looking at the one on the right, it seems to hang to the left?? Compared to the strap swivels on my SMLE that seem to be the same offset but hang to the left? Does tst make sence?

I'm afraid it doesn't make sense to me.

I've got a bunch of them here that are too thick to fit. I have to grind them down when fitting them.

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Originally Posted by Stephenwfarrell

Looking at the one on the right, it seems to hang to the left?? Compared to the strap swivels on my SMLE that seem to be the same offset but hang to the left? Does tst make sence?

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The swivels are meant to be off set to right veiwing the rifle from above (my pic is from below, so appears to the left) this was to allow the use of the Volley sights(fitted lhs) to be used without the sling obscuring the intended target.

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Originally Posted by Mk VII

I've got a bunch of them here that are too thick to fit. I have to grind them down when fitting them.

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Interesting, i have genuine piling swivels fitted to every rifle in my collection that has the provision to fit one, plus some spares, i have never come across one that did not fit, sure some are a little tight but i would expect that, plus a couple that are "floppy" but thats due to wear, never had to modify one to fit though.
Photo please.