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91/30 For Christmas
Well first hope all had a Very Merry Christmas and enjoyed the day with friends and family
Was completely surprised when I opened this long box and inside was a 1943 Mosin 91/30. The gun is a refurb and in very nice condition, the bonus is it came with as Timney trigger that has to be installed. Never knew that trigger was available and think it will make a great shooter.
I have a great son and he does spoil his dad.
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Methinks we need pictures!!! :)
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I would post a picture however it is just a ordinary gun that now has a Timney trigger group.
Went to a friends today who is a millwright and he did 99.97% of the inletting and it was much more than I would have ever imagined. The trigger is crisp and light and it should be as with shipping it cost as much as the gun. Had to remove much more wood than I would have guessed to the point you think you must be doing something wrong. The original trigger and spring are so simple I guess you should realize when you look at the Timney there's going to be a big hole you are going to dig to get it to fit.
I am guessing the trigger is actually something that with a little modification for the Mosin started life fitting some other gun as I could see where things could have been changed to make installation a little easier. Now I would have to disassemble the Timney to see if the changes I think might help are physically possible in the design they used.
There is a mod that the Fins did that is pretty simple that takes a little machining or filing and the slight bending of a spring that has good results and makes a real improvement on the original trigger. I have a carbine that I will have my friend mod and am sure I will be satisfied with and it might be the way to go for some people takes about 30 minutes and cost Zero.
Don't get me wrong, the Timney makes it great just not positive the investment is worth it. I did hear in the US Timney will do the mod/inletting for little cost other than shipping and that might be worth considering. It took over 2 hours to do this with constant fitting and trying to see where more wood needed to be removed. From close examination in the end I don't think any unnecessary wood was removed as it fit snug. No doubt the next one would be much easier as you would know from the onset you are going to remove a lot of wood thus eliminating some of the never ending fitting times.
The trigger came with a hex key that was the wrong size and was too small for the screw used to hold the pin (Mosin part) in the trigger group. That isn't a big deal unless you don't have a larger one to use which I know most do.
Would I do it again, probably as if you used this gun for hunting you make a improvement measured in light years.
PS, two things are necessary to do this mod, patience and a Dremel tool :lol:
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I've had good luck with shimming underneath the bolt that holds the sear/spring in place and polishing up the sear surfaces. Altered the sear angle a tad on one as well. I'm positive it's not as nice as a Timney job but it does shave numerous pounds off the god awful Mosin Nagant trigger pull, crisps it up slightly too. Plus empty beer cans make an excellent shim material, so it's free and fun! Leaving that trigger alone just isn't an option sometimes, I currently have one that is so heavy it was difficult to remove the bolt. That'll be headed for the workbench soon, too damn cold to be doing much outside lately here anyway.
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Well took the 91/30 to the range today and must admit the trigger is perfect, especially compared to what was original (mind you that wouldn't take much). Still shoots a little right so did another front sight adjustment tonight and maybe off the range again tomorrow weather permitting. For sure if you do serious longer distance hunting/shooting the trigger change is probably worth the time and money.
Took my Mosin M44 carbine over to my friends tonight for the "Finnish" mod. Took him less than 30 minutes and the trigger is now much smoother and pull reduced from 7 lbs to 3 1/2. Now it still has a fairly long travel but is smooth and the so often "hump" is gone. He gave it the safety test to make sure it wouldn't fire accidentally if jarred and all went well. Considering the cost to do this is ZERO it sure is worth the time and is really very simple to do. The first go had trigger pull down to 5 lbs but he thought it could be better so a little more bending of the spring and voila. Should be more accurate now providing these old eyes play their part.