what to do with quality hmc / jonhson carbine?

was giving this carbine and it turned out to have a johnson barrel on it. the only # on barrel is 14 4 22/30 qresky or oresky. at first i was looking to shoot the 5.7 but when i priced everything dies,brass and reworking the brass its to much ,so i'am thinking just change the barrel back to 30 cal. from what i've found out the quality hmc numbers # 1984xxx dont really go with its number run ,its a standard products number run, has anyone come across something like this?:confused: in the 3rd pic is this normal wear or did they have to grind somthing down? any info on the what i asked would really help out on what am going to .

Looks like about everything has been changed. There's so much, you might as well roll this to someone else and use the money for a gun you want.

thanks Jim, I have a underwood and was just thinking of having 2 different makers in .30 and not trying to find ammo for a wildcat.

The number is correct. It's 1884727 which makes it Quality Hardware. The second number is not a 9 but an 8. A Buffalo Arms, Rock-Ola or Underwood barrel dated about 9-43 would be correct for the serial number.

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

Looks like about everything has been changed.

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I wouldn't do anything with this gun until you really fully understand what you have, what's been changed, what it would really cost to convert it into what you really want, and then what's its value would be in the end.

My guess is, when you figure this out you will probably come to Jim's conclusion:

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

There's so much, you might as well roll this to someone else and use the money for a gun you want.

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If you give us some better, clearer, more detailed pics we might be able to tell you exactly what's been done. Besides the re-barreling that is...

I believe what you have is an E.J. Oresky conversion to 5.7 Johnson, or his version of that cartridge. About the time that M1 Carbine conversions were popular, there were several people who came out with their own versions of the 22/30 carbine cartridge including Dick Casull, Melvin Johnson, and Robert Schuetzen of SGW among others. I'm not sure if E.J. Oresky just made barrels, or did complete conversions.

I built one myself many years ago. If you decide to keep and shoot it, try and find a brass catcher, as the case forming process is tedious and you won't want to lose a single piece of brass! If you can get past that part, they are a whole lot of fun, and would make a decent coyote or small varmint gun to around 200yds.

An update to my previous post.

E.J. Oresky, at the time located in East Northport, New York, furnished conversion kits for the M1 carbine comprised of a .22 barrel and a set of dies. Apparently you didn't get the die set when you purchased the piece.

Also, I'm compelled to correct myself as well. The proprietor of Shuetzen Gun Works, SGW, is Robert (Bob) Schuetz. Loading data for the 22/30 carbine rounds and it's variants as well as other information can be found in Volume 2 of P.O. Ackley's, "Handbook For Shooters And Reloaders"