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I saw that too. I'm sure that most don't realise that these things aren't a sight as such but a means of measuring an angle of deflection - albeit a rare one! I don't think that the sight is as rare as the gun aiming posts (the GAP's). I saw a box of these rare beasts, early war-time ones at that, and the owner didn't realise what he had!
The notion that a Bren could be all things to all men was short lived. The overhead and indirect fire role was soon put back where it belonged. To the big boys with their Vickers and 3" mortars and the Bren was left to do what it did best. A section machine gun - at which it excelled.
Aren't those the little device with a prism inside? Just gives you a white triangle for aligning, keep both eyes open and line it up? It should have leveling bubbles and the stakes as Peter stated...just to give you some direction with the guns. Kind of a non-magnetic compass...
Peter, Are the GAP's the same as the Vickers' ones?
Yep Brian, GAP's were the same for the Vickers, Mortars and Bren. Rare as rocking horse manure if you've got any
You're right about the fixed line sight BAR. The leveling bubbles were to set the gun to horizontal (Calibrated using the sight clinometer first and.... and...... jeeeees!), set the elevation on the sight for the range from the trajectory scales booklet and elevate the gun to suit. No wonder the Vickers and Mortar crews did a 6 week course!
I learned JUST enough about indirect fire to be able to waffle a bit, not look tooooo stupid, nod and agree at all the right times and most importantly, look interested.
I took the mortar course when I was 17 so...I have a handle on indirect fire. Then there was the GPMG too. It's indirect fire was different...Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
The good thing was the C2 sight that worked for both bits of kit and as tough as old boots.
Our problem was simple. When we adopted the C6 (GPMG) and the mount group you recall so well, we needed to write the book for instruction on the indirect fire for this rig. The men at the time were headed up by one that disliked the Mortar people so none of the manipulations or parts names are the same. You should be able to have the MG and Mortar course sit together for the first 5 days and learn all the sight and indirect theory together...but noooo....not in MY army... Therefore we have some minor problems with that...starting with the fact that indirect fire for the GPMG is actually the old obscuration drill for the 1919A4. We had a Guards Offr on exchange to us and thought he was going to see the guns rock back to point at the sky when we spoke of indirect fire with the GPMG. I had to explain it to him.
Anyhoo...yes, the C2 sight...
Anybody need a set? :madsmile:
A set of what? Ah, yes....... Brian has some Bren GAP's! I'd put them on that auction site and see what they go for.