WWI P08 Luger and C96 Broomhandle

Hi All,

Found two nice appearing guns on our local ad forum:

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All original German WW1 P-08 Luger, 9mm, original finish. Dated 1916 DWM with WW1 Luger holster. Shoots and functions great. This is the real deal with all matching serial numbers and you will not find another like this one for this price. $1500. No trades.

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A VERY nice C96 broomhandle, all matching numbers, a very good bore, shoots great. Included in deal is a few boxes of new ammo, a fine fabric storage holster, and a wooden stock/holster. Shot a few times and put up in collection. Asking $1300 total or partial trade.

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Problem is, they look new. What should I look for as far as originality on these?

Thanks!

Russ

Pictures are difficult evaluate, but if descriptions are accurate, you made out very well.

The pictures aren´t that great. I´m only fairly competent to comment on the Luger (P08). The question of it being `fully numbered´ would depend on whether you want a `shooter´or a collector´s item. You´d have to disassemble the pistol entirely to ascertain whether it really is `fully numbered´(firing pin, extractor, grip screws, magazine (s) etc). If it is (and the numbers have not been faked ... look for a `halo´ around the number stamp) you´d be well advised to only shoot it using a spare extractor, firing pin and any other part that is likely to break.I´ve found that a `fully numbered´ pistol is at a distinct disadvantage when taken to the range, as any competent gunsmith will assemble a better pistol using a large assortment of parts, as he can then eliminate wear and tear over the years and give it a much needed overhaul. A fully numbered pistol in good condition is likely to be more expensive, but one that is not `fully numbered´ would genarally need to be inspected and overhauled by a qualified gunsmith, specialising in Lugers.

Thanks! I'm only considering at this point, I'm not fluent in German arms and was primarily looking for opinions...

Russ

It is a situation which is truly difficult to evaluate with the pictures that are offered. There are so many details to be covered, and none are shown.

If the Luger is truly original finish and matching, it is well on the money.

If the C96 stock holster is original (which is doubtful), then the package could be an incredible deal. Or both the gun and the stock could be rebuilt and repro scrap.

If the fellow is willing to allow full quality pictures and takedown of all aspects, I think this is your only option to verify authenticity. If he doesn't allow this opportunity, then it's a possible red flag. But maybe these are all great original matching rigs..... and maybe not.

Wish I could be more help. But much, much more info is needed.