Romanian Cugir TT-C [Tokarev TT33], any tips?

Hello all,

I have a Romanian Cugir TT-C [Tokarev TT33] on its' way. I won't have it in hand for 15 days or so.

I was wondering about a few things though, and thought I'd ask some of you, as well as ask for any tips to know beyond my question.

How stiff is the trigger? [I am using my 5.5lb pull BHP as the standard.]
Can it be made smoother/lighter, without sacrificing reliability?
Is there any ammo company to avoid for it? [I am liking the specs on PPU ammo, for example.]
How often should the recoil spring and firing pin spring be replaced?


Thanks in advance.

Based on my experiences with the Russian TT-33 I can field a few of your questions:

Trigger - Anywhere from 4.5 lbs to 9 lbs, depends on the gun, I have tested a number and they vary wildly, some are nice, some are on the heavy side.

I have no information of adjusting the trigger.

Ammo - I have successfully run everything from light 7.63 Mauser loads at 1,200 fps to crates of Czech Surplus 1,600 fps without issue, it is a tough pistol.

Springs - I have not had to replace any springs yet after a few thousand rounds on my surplus guns, reliability is quite remarkable.

Not that much you can really do to hurt (or help) a TT or one of its clones. If the recoil becomes oppressive, and it throws the brass 30 ft. or more, think about a new recoil spring. The first thing I would suggest, after shooting my TTC a few times, is to pull the added safety out. The pistol will shoot better and be more reliable without it..

My all matching 1941 Russian TT-33 has a surprisingly pleasant trigger pull of about 4-1/2 pounds.

I've mainly used surplus ammo, but also S&B. I intend to start reloading this fall.

Springs are still originals, but will probably buy some Wolf springs soon.

I've recently replaced the original black plastic grips with oiled walnut ones from Marschal Grips. And purchased mags with extended floor plates from Gun Parts Warehouse. The new grips and mags make it a far more pleasant pistol to hold and shoot.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo..._zpspttb-1.jpg

Thanks all,

I picked it up today, and couldn't wait to detail strip it to work over the trigger.

I have built 1911s and BHPs from frames up, so none of this was surprising stuff.

I did some work that seems to be safe- I'll test with the normal process of increasing #s of rounds in the mag until it goes through a full one without slam-firing.


After I did the work on the trigger group, the pull was much crisper, but still in the 7-8 lb range.

I don't think I can change the trigger return spring too much, or the trigger will fall [no guide rails in the frame, which a 1911 has, so the spring keeps the trigger shoe aligned].

I need to verify how the work does with live ammo, but I may need to re-degree the hammer/sear interface by 1/2 degree or so in order to obtain a lighter pull.

Thanks for any advice you might be able to give. My goal is around 5lbs. No more than 6lbs. I don't need 4lbs, but 4.5lbs would be sweet!

Hey all,

Any chance you could detail your trigger working tricks to us?

I have a 1942 TT-C and a 1953 Polish TT-33. The Polish Radom is super nice, clean break and much lighter trigger pull than the TT-C. So much so that when I fire them back to back...a pull on the TT-C trigger has fooled me into thinking a "safety" is engaged. Trigger is quite stiff, like it didn't want to move.....more pressure, more pressure, then bang. Oh, and here in the Great White North...our imported TT type pistols...don't have any added safety. The Polish has a sweet trigger in comparison.

There's a very good sticky over at Canadiangunnutz that might help:

CanadianGunNutz.com

I have an all matching 1938 TT. The right side bakelite grip cracked during my first outing with it. I like th TT pistols. I have 4 total.

Enjoy

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...c62d4897-1.jpg

...........:thup:............

I had to look at that photo for a couple minutes to figure it out. Very interesting.