Rem 1917, #16,136 stock question.

Hey guys,

Have Remington Model 1917 #16,136 with R 11-17 stamped barrel. How do I tell if I have a Remington stock? All of the metal is blued. Great bore.

Thanks,

Lancebear

There should be an R stamped in the end of the stock at the front band looking down the barrel view. Hope its there:)

Thanks Cary,

Dang it, has a large "W" with a large "20" overstamped. Guess "W" stands for Winchester, what does the "20" mean? The stock also has arsenal markings just in front of the left wrist, "S" in a square, "S.A.A." in a rectangle, under that "AAL" no box. Just past the wrist again on the left side of the stock is an upside down "RA" no box or maybe a very faint one. Suppose SAA is San Antonio Arsenal, AAL is Augusta Arsenal, RA is Raritan? S in square I don't know, maybe Springfield? There is also a small "20" stamped on the toe of the stock just in front of the bottom of the buttplate. One more mark. Half inch serifed "F" just behind top receiver on wrist. Stock is very fine, no cracks, no major dinks. Very sharp. Should a Winchester have a brass screw/pin through the stock just in front of the right bolt cut out?

Would WWI reworked rifles have kept the bluing on all of their parts? This one has. It's all Remington except for a Winchester Bplate, front sights, floorplate and peep. I don't know these rifles, have been collecting and studying the M1903 for the last year. When I saw the blueing and the Rem receiver number and a probable factory matching barrel, well it became time to study the M1917.

Regards,

LB

The 20 is an extranius mark, could be a sub inspector but we don't really know the low down on it. Winchester stocks always show these (as far as I have seen so far) and some Remington stocks show some as well.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ersMarks-1.jpg


The 20 at the toe of the stock, dont know, the F behind the receiver on the wrist, another dont know. The S in a square is an inspectors stamp, I have an E just like it on my SAA rebuilt 03
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...967small-1.jpg

As to the finish, you do see alot of the rifles that still retain thier blued finish or at least significant portions with only replacement parts being parked.

Dan

It also sounds like your M1917 was in the service for a while to be stamped
and run through inspections .Does she show any red paint around the nose just behind the front band or a C with an arrow inside of it on the stock right side by the butt ?There were many M1917's that seen WW1 and WW2 and lots went to our brothers to the north and across the pond to the Brits for the home guard in WW2. Hope that helps

Cary

perhaps it made a trip to New Zealand (with apologies for the poor pic)...

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...G_0102_1-1.jpg

Might check enfield-stuff.com on the marks. Hope this helps.
Lisa

Hey Cary,

No red paint. Pretty sure this rifle spent all of its' time with US armed services. It's completely disassembled right now, and haven't come across any questionable marks on the metal parts. Funny thing is only two Eddystone parts, rear handguard ring and rear sight leaf. Whatever other small parts that are not Remington are Winchester. Think I understand all of the stock markings except for two. Single "S" in a box and the large serifed "F" on the top of the wrist. Cleaned the bore, it is amazing, only had some green in it. Shines like new and shows 5/16" copper with an M2 ball cartridge stuck in it.

Thanks,

LB

Good deal. Sounds good,Now put it back together and take it to the range.I bet you'll be happy with it. My M1917 will do 2 min. at 100yds all day with hand loads just makes me smile every time one of the old gals whips a new rifle at the range:)

Thanks Cary,

I'll post some pics when I get finished detailing it. The blueing on the barreled receiver is beautiful.

LB