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Apparently there's one of those living around here somewhere. I found one of those cartridges lying forward of our firing point and slightly damaged. I straightened it and have spent considerable time researching to find out what it was. I had concluded it was the early FNs but have yet to find out who has that rifle...Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
The 7x49mm Liviano cartridges were imported into North American in large amounts after Venezuela
changed over to the 7,62x51 for their FAL rifles in 1961. It was said that it was cheaper than 22 rim fire, main
problem was available rifles to use it. Some collector/shooters had FAL barrels made in the 7,49 Liviano
caliber and used it as it was worth the cost. Some of the FAL's could have made their way into North
American from South America too, even Castro in Cuba had one for awhile.
My DWM 9 x 57mm
The 9×57mm Mauser is a cartridge based on the 7.92×57mm Mauser. It uses the identical 57 mm-long cartridge case, with the same shoulder angle, but necked up to accept a 9 mm-diameter bullet. Ballistically - but not dimensionally - it is indistinguishable from the 9×56mm Mannlicher–Schoenauer. It is currently regarded as a semi-obsolete calibre, although hand-loading keeps it alive.
Performance
Firing a relatively heavy bullet of 220–250 grains at a modest velocity of 2,200–2,300 ft/s, the 9×57mm is low in noise and recoil, pleasant to shoot, and regarded as accurate and effective on all but the very largest, most dangerous game at distances out to 300-350 yd.
The DWM head stamp is one of these but I'm not sure where this particular cartridge was produced or DOM;
DWM B Deutsche Waffen-u. Munitionsfabriken A.-G., Berlin - Borsigwalde, Germany
DWM H ederlandsche Wapen-en Munitiefabriek NV., "DE KRUITHOORN, 's-Hertogenbosch, Netherlands
DWM K Deutsche Waffen u. Munitionsfabriken, Karlsruhe, Germany
DWM L Deutsche Waffen-u. Munitionsfabriken A.-G., (Previously Deutsche Metall-Patronen-Fabrik), Lübeck, Germany
303 MkVII for scale.
I have two 9x57 cartridges, one is early Kynoch with a very heavy bullet and the other is a Norma with a
lighter bullet. When you place the 9x56 MS alongside the 9x57 - they look the same
Early cartridge from around 1900 and still loaded by Norma, used in Norway and surrounding countries Either 232 or 286 gr bullets are factory loaded.
Cartridge next to 303Attachment 128101Attachment 128102
My 5.6×61mm SE, an abbreviated form of its full designation. Case is a Bertram.
The 5.6×61mm [Vom Hofe] Super Express, is a rifle cartridge introduced in Germany in 1937. It is based on the 6.5×55mm Swedish cartridge.
The '5.6×61mm SE' uses a .228-in diameter bullet as also does the .22 Savage Hi-Power, unlike the more common .224-in bullets used for most .22 centrefire cartridges.
5.6×61mm VHSE ammunition is still available (2007) from Walter Gehmann, Karlsruhe, Germany. No mass-produced rifles are currently offered in this chambering, but custom rifle makers will chamber for it; and the calibre has a loyal if specialised following, especially among handloading long-range hunters of roe deer and chamois, although the cartridge has accounted for very much larger deer and antelope.
303 SMK reload for scale.
I have a Newton 22 caliber made from the 7x57mm case which fired a 90 gr bullet at 3100 fps in 1915Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
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I have a 22 Newton (part of my Newton family) that fired a 90 gr bullet at 3100 fps in 1915
also a 256 Newton made by necking down the 30-06 case in 1913. Fired a 129 gr bullet at 2780 FPS
My 30 Newton came out around the same time as the 375 H&H about 1913 with the same base diameter only
without the belt. Fired at 150 gr bullet at 3175 fps.
33 Newton few factory rifles but wildcat were made desined in 1915
35 Newton which was the 30 necked up fired a 250 gr bullet at 2800 fps very close to the 375 H&H
400 Newton designed in 1924 to fire a 350 gr bullet at 2800 fps
not able to show photo ?
Here is a photo of the Newton cartridges as detailed in my last posting.
A recent action sold a 33 Newton cartridge with the SPEER headstamp for $100.00US
Wildcat shooters still used the 30 and 35 cal Newton cartridges
Newton also designed the 22 Savage Hi power cartridge for Savage to use in their Model 99Attachment 128157
Nice set of cartridges RCS.
Here is an 8mm Kynoch round of which I cannot really find to much on its not a bottle type like the Lebel but reasonably straight walled and rimmed.
It has a very long projectile reminiscent of the 6.5mm type rounds so I have no idea I did find a picture of a round on the Nitro forum but it did not state what it was.
RCS are you able to identify the round!
MkVII 303 for scale.