Hi Ron, I check each load optically.
When they're on the plate, I also check them to see if the level of powder ist the same in all the brass.
Nothing is automated yet, so the level of safety is still very high.Attachment 111518
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Hi Ron, I check each load optically.
When they're on the plate, I also check them to see if the level of powder ist the same in all the brass.
Nothing is automated yet, so the level of safety is still very high.Attachment 111518
I've had a Lyman 55 for years and will continue to use it for ball powders, loading 5.56 for instance...but for extruded powders I just bought a Lyman generation 6 compact digital powder system. My scoops have now been antiquated. I still calibrate with a balance beam RCBS 5/10 scale but loading .308 for instance is much accelerated and as accurate as a balance beam scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
I love my scale. It is behind the powder measure in the picture. My wife's present in the far away 1995...
Still perfect.
I just bought another single-stage and built on an extension to my home office desk. Since I have been working from home I figured that in my downtime I could prep cases. My main loading equipment is in the garage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
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Those Hornady types infact even my Redding with the adjustable numbered meterage dislike grain types of powder as they can sometime have trouble cutting a kernel espescially the plastic ones the Reddings are polished steel. Ball powders are the go 8208 & WIN 760 meteres the best from mine and our DP auto dispenser, I use RE-22 allot so have had to put a restricter in the auto dispenser otherwise it too easilly throws .1 - .2gn over what I have programed as I keep it .2 under and weigh that to the required weight.
Covid - 19 has me up to date for all my rifles reloading now to get back into shooting this Sunday..
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Originally Posted by usabaker
Nice. I do work from my reloading table too at home. With three kids, I don't have enough space left...
Saturday, since things here are starting to "stink" again, I decided to dedicate a full day to shooting.
In the morning I took out my S&W 27-2 with some new WC reloads. Have to work on them a tad. Very weak and tend to print 2" lower at 15 meters than my usual reloads. I don't want to tinker with the rear sigh every time. So I already made a somewhat heavier load yesterday.
Then I took my old, faithful Walther PP Sport with some Winchester .22LR ammo. Great fun and, after a few rounds to get used to her again, a pretty good target.
In the end, 50 rounds with my Practical Elite. Lower power than I did earlier, since I broke her in now. Worked great. She prints 2" high at 15 meters and I'm at the lowest with the rear sight.
I hold a tad low and mostly get it right, but I might also think about changing the front sight.
In the afternoon I took out two old friends.
Carl Gustafs 96/38 and Mosin 91/30.
Both needed to be sighted in again, because for the Carl I changed the load and I changed and tinkered with the front sight of the Mosin, getting it completely out of alignment.
At he end of it, with the good old Mosin, I printed some 10 rounds in less than 2". And it was pretty hot, with some mirage and with eyes not fresh anymore.
Great day.
Now, back to the bad smell around here.
We have some rise in the infections, but our differently intelligent politicians are again starting to play little Adolf on us.
They want to force the waring of face protection also inside the households. Which is crazy. They just know they can't, so they let that one drop, but they keep talking about that.
In the meantime, they are again spreading uncertainty among people, and that is the most efficient killer for any economy.
I keep reloading and hoping to be allowed to go shooting also in the coming months, but I don't trust those idiots anymore and expect limitations every moment now.
Considering that we, as shooters, are of absolutely no interest to those people, plus we are at the wrong end of the sensitivity of the politically correct snow whites, hurting us would be as usually a nicely accepted political move. No cost, and some gain.
So....I'm braced and ready for a new period of limitations.
I just hope they'll not do too much damage to the kids by closing schools again.
I stop it here, I see I'm not very positive at the moment...
Plus, I have to find out about my buddy in ICU. He's making me worry a lot.
Latest news about the new executive orders say that the goverment is going to prohibit any kind of gathering, even in private homes. Maximum of 6 people in a home (I hope they’ll specify...), and that they want to give police the power to enter private homes to check who is there and if they have the right to be there.
The minister of health even said that they expect to get information from neighbours in case someone has a party or a few people at home.
So, citizen are expected to report neighbours. Kids should then report parents? Lovers their partner?
Having grown up between Italy and Germany in the 70-80ies, I think I can remember a certain country where that used to be the rule...
Let me think harder... Yes, I got it! DDR!
This happens when people change their party’s name, but remain the same.
Our commies are still the old style democratics...
I’m not sure what I would do if some uniformed guys came and tried to enter my home.
I don’t want to find out.
That is really too much.
Rifle season is coming up. I am getting no indications we are not having it which is good. The coaches have had a zoom meeting to discuss the season and we came up with a plan that is basically:
Small teams 12-16 kids, I'm aiming for 14. I usually have 24 after downsizing, 30+ to start.
Only three shooters on the line at any given time, I usually have six.
We are doing matches "remotely". Each team shoots on their home match, the coaches meet up afterwards and the visiting coach hands off their targets to the home coach for scoring by the home teams scorer.
No sharing of jackets, gloves, slings, pellet boxes, goggles or mats.
Rifles can be shared but must be wiped down between users. I have 12 good rifles so only 2 will be shared.
Scopes can be shared but must be wiped down between users. I have 7 and the kids are very particular on which one they use to these will be shared.
Masks are worn on the range but can be taken off prior to shooting.
All gear has to be separated from everyone else's. I'm probably going to have large garbage bags over the hangers, everything else will be boxed up so plenty of room for 14 jackets on the rack. Mats will be labeled and placed along the wall for storage.
I will label, hang, retrieve and score the targets and put the 99's and 100's in our wall racks. The rest I'm not sure about yet, possibly throw them away or let them sit for 48 hours so they can take them home. Not real clear on dangers of paper products.
The coaches and league chair have all approved this. I have let my Athletic Director know about our findings, he has requested a list of equipment I need to get everyone their own. Not a lot, I figure 3 jackets that we can probably manage without as I can put the kid in a larger one if need be. 5-7 gloves and 2 mats. Budget wise the high end is about $520 which might be in my normal equipment budget anyway, not sure. Plus without transportation costs or pairs tournament costs, that may cover all of it anyway.
So this is what our sport looks like. Goes to the Athletic Directors on Thursday who will determine if it is acceptable or not.
C’mon, keep the kids on the range!!!
I want to keep them on the range but this year is going to be rough. I've never cut anyone before. I've encouraged a few to go on their own and there are a few I probably should have cut but most self leave on their own. I have 18 kids left from last year. Of those, one I will not allow on the team even though he's a senior. Just a bad attitude. 2 are not qualified in any way to be on the team, one of the two knows it, the other is a special needs kid that mostly stopped coming last year anyway. That leaves me with four that I can't guarantee a slot for. I have 6 returning varsity and 2 that went to matches and 3 that are ready to move up. That leaves me with 3 openings at best, possibly only 1 and I want at least one freshman. They may not all come back being how it is so I'll have to wait and see at sign ups.
Maybe some hints of bad mood and some tons of insults from a few million Italians did the deed: they're still playing little dictators, but backed up on the violation of one's home and said that they don't want anybody to report neighbours.
They do, I'm sure, and they'll find enough of those infamous people, but it was nice to see how the bulk of the Italian people started rumouring and cursing, as well as making very heavy jokes on these turds.
A very light one is this... But there are literally thousands going around these days.
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Sounds like the days of the Red Brigade...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
They come from the same milieu. The communist party called them erring comrades for years, until they really got extremely dangerous. Only after a lot of dead they recognised the tragedy, albeit they never took responsibility for growing them.
I had a very troubled childhood and teen-age because of those bastards.
My dad was a high-ranking manager at Pirelli in the mid-seventies and was on the to-kill list of the red brigades. Famous fascist, to be killed at the first opportunity they wrote on their manifests. Just because he did not strike and kept working even when there were trouble.
He kept his Beretta 35 on and on the night table at night for years.
My grandpa was judge in the highest court and held the trial against the heads of the red brigades later, end of the eighties.
He had to live with an escort for years, and when we went to the sea in summer, with my grandparents, we had police and carabinieri escorting us.
But to be sincere, today's idiots are just ridiculous.
The others were very intelligent in their foolishness, serious, criminal and thus dangerous.
Ours now are just good to write comedies about.
But you see, feel and experience that they still have that horrible phoniness, that intolerance which brings them to declare themselves democratic, to always talk about freedom, rights, high principles, to tell the whole world how good and tolerant they are. Until you express a differing opinion.
Then they attack you calling you names, saying that you're a fascist, an intolerant, a racist, homophobe, whatever. They make a thorough character assassination of yourself and, until a few years ago, every now and then, some crazy among them took up arms and killed the enemy of the moment.
Pathetic, but still dangerous.
The funny part with such idiots is when you ask them to define a fascist and an intolerant: they normally just self describe themselves. Many don't even notice, but the few who do...
Priceless!
Back to guns: Saturday I'll go pick up my Finnish Mosin M39. Great conditions. I'll trade my FASS 57 (or StGew 57) for that other one.
I just happen not to like semi autos... Never really noticed because I love my Garand. but she's special, as I used her during military school.
I'm even thinking of trading my StG 58 (Austrian FAL) for some bolt action milsurp. Hopefully for a trainer. Enfield No1 with Garand sights...
Let's see.
I wanted to put my 58 on the used guns site, but when I opened the page there was another one at 100 € less than I wanted to get. Damned fool that guy!
The "left" in the USA have clearly put their feet in it with their riots and disorders; it's going to blow back badly for them in this election.
I can see they have realized this now, but too late. :p Now the new is all about volunteers cleaning up and "kneeling protests" :rolleyes:
Dostoevsky called those behind all this "the devils". In Russia they fully justified his assessment, and they have anywhere they have been given the chance.
The media is working hard to control the results of this election. We have the major social media power houses now censoring real news because they deem it harmful. Yet they have been misrepresenting police custody deaths which are fueling these riots which actually are harmful with no restrictions.
Slow news day on Covid so they went on a special about how if you are blood Type O you will fair better than those with blood Type A which have the worst outcomes. PANIC, PANIC, PANIC. Is this not "harmful"?
Especially since the difference is so small it's statistically not really significant. The other factors in a persons life factor so much more heavily than blood type.
We are seeing increasing numbers in positive cases but it's starting to appear that people really don't care, they want these shutdowns ended. Hospitalizations and deaths continue to remain relatively low, deaths decreasing even while hospitalizations are on the rise.
Today, my son came back from school and told us: Ma, Dad, I'm in "preemptive quarantine".
- What's that?
- Well, two of my classmates have fever and have been sent home and have undergone a swab. I can't go anywhere until the results will be communicated to the school. But you're ok, you can still live on as usual.
- How come? was my next question.
- Well, we've been told so. But that's not all: I can't go anywhere but to school, answered my son.
And, since I take the bus and the train to go to school, I can still take bus and train.
- Can't you just follow the lessons remotely?
- No. To activate the remote classrooms, there needs to be a "class council" that decides so, and that happens only if someone is Covid-positive and has to undergo the full quarantine. Any other reasons are not considered. And the remote lessons are private for those who are home.
- But wouldn't it be more logical to activate a camera and allow the kids to just follow the normal lessons from home? That would almost be like being there!
- Maybe, but those are the rules...
Gentlemen, the situation is tragic, but not serious...:dunno::sos::surrender:
Fever can be caused by all sorts of things and oddly is the only thing I haven't had since this started. I have a minor cough right now and a slightly runny nose but not a hint of a fever. This is the third time since March. I suspect it's allergies.
Tomorrow I go squirrel hunting for the first time in three years. Haven't hunted for them since my emergency surgery.
What's funny is someone created a meme about the Game Commission, our wildlife law enforcement unit, and the Governor made it a mandate to wear fluorescent orange masks while hunting. If you couldn't find a fluorescent orange mask you could buy one from the Game Commission for $30.00. Failure to wear an orange mask could result in a $500 fine. Failure to wear any mask could result in loss of hunting rights for two years. Came complete with a photo of the mask with the Game Commission logo on it. I thought it was hilarious and shared it and now several gullible people I know believe it and are posting nasty messages to the governor over this. That's how ridiculous this is that they actually believe this is something the Governor would do.
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I’m a very heavy allergic guy. I think I’ve never been so unpopular as in damned 2020:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
I too have allergies to our tree pollen here, just a bit of wheezing at times and later in season like...now, I have a bit of a liquid sounding cough to clear in the morning. I have noticed I haven't had a cold or flu along with the normal seasons for it. By the way...I avoid wearing a mask at all times/costs... So it's the other people that brought these diseases to me.
Things have been crazy here as I am typing this from my bed. I visited the doctor yesterday and he prescribed bed rest for two days as I was suffering from exhaustion. He told me that I could only work two days (6 hour days) per week and cut my range safety officer duties back to two Sundays per month either that or end up with a stroke or heart attack. This past Thursday I finished up converting 10 ARs to NJ compliant. The manufacturers appear to only be producing ARs that have all of the "evils" on them and avoid the "ban" States. We have been paying retail prices to get stock in the shop. Only two Glock 19s which sold within a hour of being placed in the show case. Plenty of S&Ws, Girshans, and Taurus 9mm all with high cap magazines. We have been ordering 10 round mags and switching them out. Ammunition is still a problem this week we only received 3 cases of 9mm Luger (9x19mm). We are keeping a case to have ammo to sale with the guns. No new 12 gauge 00 Buck and .38 Special, .45ACP 230 grain Ball and .22LR are becoming distant memories. 5.56mm/.223 Remington is available but sales are limited to one box per customer. The hoarding is unbelievable. I just got an email this morning that I have an additional 8 5.56mm and 2 .308 Winchester AR platforms to make NJ Compliant. We are expecting a big shipment of 50 Troy A4 Other Rifles in next several days. Have to go stay safe.
Should be a gun show at Bisley this weekend, but I expect it's been cancelled like most (though I did go to one at Sandown Park a couple of weeks back). Rifle competition shoot on Sunday, out in the open air it should be fairly unchanged, but it's just turn up, shoot, go away again, the social aspect is cancelled. Would have stayed in the clubhouse overnight in normal times but I will just go for the day now.
Had an enjoyable day hunting yesterday. Only one squirrel but the weather was beautiful. Ran into a local who asked where I was from and when I told him, did he care about Covid, no. All he wanted to know was what direction my area was going to go in the election.
To put this in context, I live in one of the early lockdown counties in the state and I was in a county that has some cases but nearly all are in the State prison complex which is there.
This area is my home although I haven't lived there for about 35 years now. Been here more than there now for quite a while.
Stopped at a restaurant and a guy seemed to be bragging about having Covid and I'm like Dude, you have 600 cases up here, I really doubt you are one of them considering he wasn't an inmate.
When were these "class councils" created?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
Well, that's better than the school board in San Deigo saying the way we were all taught to turn our class and homework in is racist.... You gotta really love California, leading the way!
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...acism/2425346/
"Academic grades will now focus on mastery of the material, not a yearly average, which board members say penalizes students who get a slow start, or who struggle at points throughout the year.
Another big change, teachers can no longer consider non-material factors when grading. Things like turning work in on time and classroom behavior will now instead count towards a student's citizenship grade, not their academic grade."
We should not be surprised when asiatic kids will start outperforming ours...
Good grief ... I thought it was bad here in the UK!Quote:
Originally Posted by usabaker
Here in the UK, successive governments have dumbed down lessons, subverting teaching from teaching subjects in depth, to teaching kids purely facts, to pass exams and shoving most of them through university for pointless degrees...
Unbelievably, some companies now make young degree applicants sit exams to try and sort out who the bright kids are, it makes the whole degree process rather pointless and devalued.
I hope they aren't surprised when colleges no longer accept their students and they can no longer get jobs when they "graduate".
They have been doing so for a long time. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
And more importantly, so has their leadership.
That's true...
You have no idea.... The best thing the San Deigo school district ever did for my son is to tell my wife and I that our son could not go to Public Pre-School because we made too much money with our combined income. Our son has been in a private school ever since (9th grade now.) I thank GOD he's never set foot in public school.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclark303
I can understand you very well.
I was very worried about public schools and, before moving to "the Far East" of Italy, I sent my kids to a private school close to the Swiss border, where I lived.
Here the situation is a lot better, because our region has a special status, being it on the border and multi tongue, so we have a lot of autonomy, which helps make also public school much better than elsewhere.
You still have to cope with some unionised teachers, who think the school is there for them and not for the pupils, but it is acceptable.
Something significant happened and I'm not sure why. And kind of laughing at how this is now significant.
Our Walmart opened it's other door for entry and exit. Seven months that door has been closed and all of a sudden, there it is open like it was never closed. The aisles were also packed with stuff, almost like all those Chinese ships off the coast have been unloaded.
As for public schools, I think our schools are pretty good and I have no real complaints about them for our kids. But then I live in a fairly conservative area that allows rifle teams in the schools so not sure if that says anything for the majority of public schools.
I think the more rural they are, the better the education they are going to get, the more urban, the worse they are going to get. I hear a lot of stories and see a lot of evidence to support the latter at least.
Little update: the situation in my son's school was clarified in the past days. The alarm started because more than 40% of the kids were absent. The new Covid-rules say that in such a case, an information has to be given to the health authorities. These inform the school and families that they'll check on the situation and then, if something arises, that they'll send an email to inform about the preemptive quarantine.
In this case, 2 kids were home because of fever, but all the rest were home (authorised by their parents, since we are informed in real-time about the presence at school of the kids) because there were Latin interrogations.
FOOOOOOOOOLS!!!
Now, one of the feverish guys resulted positive, so my son really is in preemptive isolation.
Not the rest of the family.
I'm curious now to see how all this develops.
He voluntarily isolated himself from us, but we were together until yesterday after dinner...
I fear this is going to be the norm for a very long time to come. I hope that your son did not contact this crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
Me too...
Rough days these.
Apart from this frigging Covid and my son’s school, my wife has been immobilised in bed since Wednesday last week.
Slipped discs. Horrendous inflammatory state of the nerves and unbearable pain.
Saturday a trip to the emergency room, some painkillers and then out.
The three km back to home were a real torture, so, from Saturday night, everything even worse.
Yesterday, again a call to the ambulance, because she was completely done and could not move even in bed anymore.
The funny part is that her doctor came, measured her temperature, which was ok, then called personally the ambulance. They came, took again the temperature and...37.7C. Covid scenario. So they had to go out, dress up like space troopers and come get her.
The doctor had to leave. I could not go to the hospital.
After one hour, alarm was called off. Three measurements and always ok again.
Then, she started to be treated, finally.
One night in, drugs without end and...still like before.
CT-scan shows nothing has changed from the last time she had a similar case.
Now she’s back and laying in bed, in total pain.
The only cure will be patience, the doctors told us. The inflammatory state will slowly recede keeping up the cures.
But what struck me, is how much that Covid thing affects everything and everybody.
How many people have to endure prolonged suffering, lack of treatments, of cures, of preemptive check-ups so that this virus does not spread.
Is that really sensible? So extreme at least?
I’m not sure about this.
This may be of interest: Inversion therapy in patients with pure single level lumbar discogenic disease: a pilot randomized trial - PubMed
Source is here
Best of luck with it!
The state of our world today. A new survey shows that only 75% of Americans believe they will survive Covid if they contract it. A virus that has a 99.98% survival rate for anyone under 50, a 99.95% survival rate for those between 50-70 and a 94.6% survival rate for those over 70. Not surprising, this belief is solidly along party lines. Also not surprising is the article is worded to make it look like it is a positive thing that 75% believe they will survive.
Tell the freaking truth and maybe people wouldn't believe this crap.
It's the way it was pushed at us though. Here, we were told this was and still IS doom for any and all that contract it. Thus the massive control actions of the Gum't...and people knuckling under and following like sheep. It's here now, get used to it. It won't ever go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
Had somebody I know die of corona....have known quite a few that got it and got over it....have a few friends under quarantine from potential exposure to the virus but no symptoms.
The person who died was an older fellow....a good friend's father. Friends Mom got the coronas and got over it and quarantined....Father got sick a couple weeks after and tried to walk it off. By the time he sought medical help it was probably too late. He lingered in the ICU for about 15 or 20 days. I suppose the moral of the story is get to the doctor if you suspect you have corona and are an older person
Of course when bad things happen the weather turns awful....My friend is in Iowa making funeral arrangements for Father....here in Oklahoma we are experiencing an ice storm so myself and another friend are taking care of our grieving friends cattle herd
Sorry to hear that.
I have just heard that my good friend I wrote about a couple weeks ago is out of ICU now. Got out yesterday. Still in need to recover, but out of imminent danger.
The worst thing right now is that we had no real measures taken for months. Politicians just kept fighting for trivial stuff, about immigration, to destroy all that had been done by the previous governments...
All along they did nothing of what all professionals were advising to do:
- improve public transport;
- help improve the network for efficient home office;
- introducing staggered hours at school to prevent peak times on buses, trams, the tube...;
- increase the number of ICU beds available (those who did, Lombardy) have been attacked politically, investigated, criticised by all media, and now... other regions send their ailing citizens to...Lombardy. In the two new Covid hospitals);
- explain the situation in a clear and unanimous way, and enforce simple rules (social distancing, face protection in closed rooms or when with people, nothing enormous), in order to minimise the risk of infection without killing the economy.
Nothing has been done, and now they want to close down everything. But after 6PM. Again stupid rules...
But there is turmoil right now. It started in the South and spread to the North in a couple days.
Only a few injured until yesterday night, but it could get worse pretty quickly now that it started.
I am still with my Defcon at three, but am reloading everything I have.
If I keep this pace, next week I'll be reloading my neighbours cat and dogs...
Well-- The riots are getting closed to home. Second night of burning and looting in Philadelphia which just across the river from us. The PA governor called up my old National Guard unit for riot control. Needless to say being so close to home, the gunshop is close to being out of firearms again due the current wave of first time buyers. They are buying anything that shoots. We received 30 Troy A4 Other firearms in 5.56mm and we sold everyone in two days!! We had our first shipment of 12 Glock 17 and 19s in 5 months. They were gone in two hours!! Ammo is still tough to get a hold of. The local distributor is holding back on the ammunition as they are ear marked for the police in event of riots which are happening. We are only selling ammunition with the guns we sell. The hoarders have to go elsewhere. The prices on the internet is a new form of highway robbery. I recently seen a case of 500 9mm 115 grain ball re-manufactured rounds go for $999.00 US dollars!! We are still selling PMC 9mm 115 grain for $18.75 per box of 50. Some customers are upset that I will not sell them ammo by the case or single box which are reserved for gun purchases. I usually tell them, "your lack of planning and preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part." I have even advise the owner not to sell regular ammo to hoarders and only sale the Critical Duty or Critical Defense rounds for self-protection to the walk in hoarders. As it is the only rounds that can be used for self-defense in NJ.
I have started getting pictures and videos from friends of what is going on in Italy. Here in Friuli, also in the smaller towns there are flash mobs of restaurant and bar owners, as well as of other business owners and workers, protesting against the new executive orders which force a lock-down of all businesses at 6PM.
The funny thing is that if you own a bar which also sells cigarettes and has the bingo or tombola, games with prizes and other state-owned or run businesses, you can keep those open, but you have to close the bar. If you knew Italy, you would know that many bars have the counter and, left or right, the tobacco and cigarettes sale and, usually at the side, all the games registers etc. So, you must close down the part of business you own and keep the rest open for the state businesses.
There is no distinction, separation, distance whatsoever between any part of those businesses. It is all inline...
Covid ceases where the state makes cash apparently.
I'd like to start slapping those idiots who write that kind of rules. Slaps in two's, until they reach an odd number...Full hand!
Sounds like there's a problem...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
Well now here we are hearing about how bad Europe is again. Usual panic rantings from politicians trying to scare people again and some governors shutting things down again. PA continues to reopen somewhat but they are now concerned about increased rates of positives among tests which are averaging over 5%. To me that sounds low. Means 95% of people who think they have it and get tested don't have it. Hospitalizations are a third what they were during the peak with increased capacity so they aren't worried there, YET, always a YET thrown in there. Our town had their little Halloween parade tonight. A lot fewer kids dressed up and almost no spectators but I went to support them. Kids really have to be wondering what's going on.
My rifle season is apparently a go but still not sure how we are handling matches. Probably the remote type like expected. I have to figure out how to hold tryouts with the kids not having equipment to shoot properly. Can't share soft items. I have a pile of old jackets and a few old gloves. Hope not many new ones want to try out. I have at least 3. They get two days of verbal instruction, will get to watch one round of experienced shooters shoot and then thrown on the range with no set up time or sighting in. I'll just be looking for the shots to hit the target in the same general area. Obviously not the proper way to do it but it is what it is. Have to get the team set at 14 as fast as possible and I usually have 30+ at the start.
Good to have friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Havenot
Better to have Good friends.
Last Saturday, since my wife finally could again stand up, even though for very limited time and just barely reaching the bathroom, I decided to go and let some "steam" off.
In the morning I went to the short range and shot my Bernardelli P-One to very good effect, then I shot 50 rounds of WC ammo, reloaded, with the 27-2. Again with great satisfaction.
In the afternoon, I went to the rifle range and tried the M39.
It took me a moment to get to the right elevation, but then, although I was a tad distracted, the target came out not too shabby. These are 20 rounds. I pulled one high...a couple low.
She prints a tad high, but I decided not to touch the rear sight, just go for a group. And, after the first few shots, the group came, nice and clean.
And the trigger is good too. Heavy, like most military rifles, but clean.
We'll make friends for sure.
I'll reload for her tonight. And the next time I'll go for adjustments.
How's the rest going?
Don't ask me. We have an executive order every three days lately, without even waiting for the effects of the previous ones, the government farts out the next (sorry for the rude word, but that's how more and more people feel about it, including myself).
I keep to my personal respectful rules and for the rest, I just live freely. Until now, no trouble with Carabinieri or Police. I hope they'll continue to behave well and judge according to logic and sensibility.
Two out of three kids (mine) are home. Only the youngest daughter, in fifth grade, still goes to school. For how long? Mah...
Work? Goes great. I made more than 1.4M sales in October, without ever meeting with a single customer. I'm flabbergasted and very happy about that.
I also had some direct private contact with a few of us here lately, for different reasons. Very nice. Looks like there is really a great bunch of guys on this forum!
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TV season premiers are happening now in the US. Grey's Anatomy. Wife and youngest daughter love it. I've grown to be used to it, even slightly interested in it after being forced to watch it every week. For those that don't know what it is, it's a hospital soap opera. What are they doing in tonight's premier? COVID-19. Everyone is yelling at each other, everyone is having mental breakdowns, the hospital is over run.
Who the heck wants to watch this crap after dealing with it for the last 9 months? My wife just told me to change the channel to Hallmark and went to do laundry. I just finished posting a jumped the shark meme on facebook.
I can't listen to news anymore. Only Covid, always Covid. And contradictory information at that. Imagine if I would watch a comedy which talks about that...
I see countries like Sweden doing well, but no one asks or gives information.
We have politics being the sole reason for each and every decision taken, not competence or knowledge.
Communication at its lowest point ever, which is really hard to imagine, especially after what we've been through in the past 9 months.
Freedom constricted, more and more. And everybody abiding...
I have had too much.
I'll keep my common sense rules and not overdo. If I have to get fined, well...I'll get fined and appeal against the fine.
Too much crap...
Well-- It has been awhile since I posted last. I have been basically running two fulltime jobs and one part-time job since The COVID-19 started. A part-time (two day) gun shop job had turned to 5 days a week plus a full time gunsmithing job. Doctor told me to cut back to two days and just work on firearms at my leisure or I will end up with a stroke or heart attack that's if the COVID-19 does not get me first! All of the gunsmithing has been converting AR platforms to make them NJ compliant. I did 9 in the past two days and have 2 more in the que to be done. I now have a cardboard box filled with the "evil" AR flash hiders. I will have to start putting them into a 5 gallon bucket. Price has become no objective for folks wanting an AR platform. Everything is over $1,000 US dollars and up. Ammunition has reach the world of unoptainable. 9mm is being limited to to just the 9mm pistols that we have to sell. 5.56mm/.223 Remington to one box per customer. Finally received one case of .38 special. No .22LR for the past two months. On my personal side I have upgraded my mini lathe from a 10" to 16" and purchased a Grizzly DRO mini mill at a great price and free shipping. That will give me a better handle on my gunsmithing operation without having to beg for lathe or milling time from a friend to get work done. I have not watched the news or any TV shows for the past two weeks. Everytime I watch our new President-elect I start to laugh as he reminds me of one of Jeff Dumham's puppets, Walther. My wife thinks I am nuts when I laugh at him on the television until I told her why. She then told me I was right he does look like Walter!! I hope everyone is safe and healthy. Keep your powder dry and your firearms close at hand to protect your family.
PS-- Ovidio - Love your M39, I wish there was a way to put a Parker Hale Match sight on one without damaging the rifle.
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If you find a way to do it, let me know.
It could be a nice frankenrifle:lol::lol::lol:
I hope tomorrow I'll be able to go shoot it again.
Now that I have new glasses and see the world clearly again...
Poll question. I think I can get better feedback here than any other source.
How close do you think the excrement is to the fan?
Very close. Tomorrow is the last day we’ll be allowed out of our community...
I’ll go go to the pistol range in the late morning, to the rifle range in the afternoon. Then I’ll load like crazy and be ready...
They've been very patient with us on this one thread concerning politics so I will try to be very careful in what I say and keep things very generalized.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY
I actually don't think it's very close yet. It's like the calm before the storm however. I think a lot depends on the legal challenges to the election. 71+ million voters believe extreme fraud was conducted by the opposing side but they are all being polite, quiet, and waiting for the process to unfold. 60- million voters believe they won because the media has assured them they have. As this group contains all the rioters, looters and malcontents, if the challenges reverse the media call, all hell will break loose.
We are assured by all that fraud did not occur but I'm all of a sudden getting mail sent to me with complete strangers names on them. Three pieces of identical mail, one addressed to me, two addressed to complete strangers, all Liberty Mutual Insurance ads. A fourth piece of mail addressed to stranger #1 is a Santander ad. This all came yesterday. I'm thinking my address has been used so someone can either vote in multiple precincts or mailing in their vote. I have reported it to my state rep but have not heard back yet. What are the odds of three identical ads being sent at the same day to the same address with three different names on them, two of which have never lived here and a fourth piece has an ad from another company for one of the two strangers? Not very high in my book, not without purpose. I am not a strong believer in coincidence.
I just learned from family that lives in the central part of the state that procedures vary greatly from county to county. I live in a high risk region and schools have been fully open since early September which is our normal starting time. We opened one week later than usual. Sports programs have been in place the entire time although spectators have been restricted. My family lives in a low risk county that just opened their schools this week and are already talking about shutting them down and my niece has already been quarantined. Apparently they spent all this time doing nothing to prepare their schools. No barriers in the cafeterias, no effort to social distance the kids, etc. Not sure if this is pure incompetence or fear or what.
Meanwhile, I'm in one of those moods where I feel "I must find a new gun to purchase" It happens. This is not a panic buy for home protection, I'm covered there. I want a new WWI or WWII pistol. There aren't any. There aren't any anythings. I was so close to buying that piece of crap 8mm Carcano I mentioned because of this "desire" to do something. Gun shops are nearly empty counter wise in small stuff. Hunting rifles are around but don't seem to be "nice" ones. Milsurps are gone. Prices I'm seeing people are paying for them when they find them are ridiculous. My "investments" have doubled and tripled in one year. It's crazy. The only ammo I seem to be able to reliably find is 300 Savage. What makes this interesting is I haven't seen that caliber for sale for years. I suspect it's one they pump out every three or four years and this just happened to be the year. At $40 a box, I'll pass, but nearly everyone has it. Local shop has it for $38 and I was actually tempted over $2. I have about 8 boxes of empties to reload so I really don't need it. Just going stir crazy I guess. Finding myself opening one of the safes and just staring in there more and more often also. I have them packed in there like sardines so not about to take anything out. Take me a week to get them back in.
Can't watch the news anymore because it's either election or Covid propaganda that can easily be refuted with a 5 second web search.
I am getting concerned about my wife. She's been depressed since this started and she was so excited when Grey's came on last night. Neither of us were aware the premiers started but she couldn't handle it after half an hour because it also became propaganda. We ended up watching a horror movie and she hates horror movies.
I kept that in mind with the poll question and am thankful for the slack and will not push the envelope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
Other than the geographic comments I could have written your last post. Sounds very much like my present situation.
Especially that comment.Quote:
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Trying to stay optimistic though it seems an uphill battle and the alternative seems bleak.
Show this weekend perhaps there is an oldie to fill a hole in the collection and create one in my wallet (not to the degree that a new AR now would).
Thanks to the moderators for the slack and to you and all the other posters here for keeping this thread alive.
Not so well. Sweden's chief epidemiologist has admitted that the country is now experiencing a second wave of coronavirus cases, despite predicting that the country's no-lockdown policy would prevent another virus surge. Sweden, whose unorthodox virus-fighting strategy has garnered global attention, registered a record 5,990 new COVID-19 cases on Friday, the highest since the start of the pandemic, Health Agency statistics showed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
The increase compared with a high of 4,697 daily cases recorded earlier this month.
Sweden registered 42 new deaths, taking the total to 6,164 deaths. Sweden’s death rate per capita is several times higher than that of its Nordic neighbours but somewhat lower than some larger European countries such as Spain From Reuters and Yahoo News today. Best. Tom
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Just heard it a few minutes ago myself...
I don’t understand anything anymore...
So I’m prepping my shorties for the last range trip in a while.
Then a couple rifles for the afternoon...
I also have about 10 pounds of ribs, marinated a few days, into the sous vide since yesterday at noon.
Evening with a farewell bbq and a couple beers.
Then...
I prepared my rifles in their “sleeping bags”...
Both safes quietly protected from humidity and contact.
Let’s see, after today, when I’ll be able to take them out again...
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I thought I would put together some observations on what I am seeing in the gun business. Friends in both the gun and ammunition industries were telling before the election that it would be Mid-2021 before they would be catch up with demand. I had the local Glock representative in the other day and we talked about the availability of Glock pistols. He told me that before the crisis, Glock USA was making about 100,000 pistols per month. He told me that last month that Glock produced 250,000 pistols and still cannot keep up with the demand. There appears to be no hunting season this year as it seems the producers are focusing on the production of "tactical" weapons and ammunition. Thank God our shop put in a good stockpile of hunting ammunition (generally shotgun ammo) last year because there is none this year only "tactical" LE 12 gauge 00 Buckshot. The timing of the Remington break up did not help any either.
The market has narrowed down to any 5.56mm/.223 Remington AR platforms good or bad. It maybe hard to believe but I have Ruger mini-14s and they are a hard sale and they sit. Any 9mm pistol, everyone wants a Glock 17 or 19. The other Glock 9mm pistols are good sellers as well. .45ACP and .40 S&W pistols are a very distance 2nd place. Next is 12 gauge pump action shotguns. American made 12 gauge shotguns seem to be unobtainable. Mossberg seems to be the only US company producing shotguns. With the break up of Remington their products seems to be on hold until the new companies that acquired the Remington holdings such as Bushmaster, Marlin, etc., can take effective control to beginning production of the firearms and ammunition. All of the 12 gauge shotguns we have been selling have been made in Turkey. They are not really bad guns and appear to be better made than some of the US made products. Just about all come with chrome plated bore and removable choke tubes both of which are pluses. When the Biden administration comes into office on January 20th all bets are off. It could be 2023 before the production meets up with demand according to my industry sources.
Another observation that has serious implications is the complete lack of firearms safety knowledge on the part of many new firearm buyers. There is the potential for a lot of Darwin Award winners who will remove themselves or the people around themselves from the gene pool due the the lack of safe gun handling. Some folks have the common sense to schedule training courses others are born "experts" probably with tragic results.
This years high school rifle team:
Finally got some guidance on how the season is happening. Unlike other sports, we actually don't have to physically meet the other team so we are all shooting on our home ranges this year and the coaches are exchanging targets so they are scored by the same individual. This is not ideal as part of the High School experience is meeting your opponents and traveling to compete. But this is better than nothing. My school has been proactive in getting me additional equipment and supplies to get through the season. My local lumber yard has been supportive and provided me with four barriers so I can get more kids on the line at a time. It would have been three with social distancing, with the barriers I can get five, six is normal.
Team size is 15 which is very small for me. I usually have 24-28. I have 12 returning and 17 new that have to tryout for 3 slots. Normally, no where near the 17 actually show up but I'm still going to have to cut a lot of kids this year.
Prior to practice, they all have to sanitize their hands, they have to fill out a self certification which I have not seen yet but have been told there is a list of symptoms and if they have two or more they cannot practice. There is also a contact question which can also result in no practice and they must have a water bottle. Now in other sports, this makes sense, for me, not so much but we still have to adhere to it. My kids don't get dehydrated.
They must wear masks except when shooting, they must wipe down any shared equipment which for us is the rifles and the scopes. Everything else, jacket, glove, glasses, pellet box, sling and mat they each have their own. They are kept together with the exception of the mat inside the jacket and are hung on a hanger with a garbage bag over it all.
I'm the only one touching the targets this year from start to finish. Every day is going to be like a match day. I can't touch the kids or help them with their equipment which will make it difficult for some of the girls. Some always seem to have trouble with their slings, getting them tight and getting them on and off the rifle. I can hit them with a big stick, LOL, which isn't extremely helpful. Basically I have to figure out how to use the stick to get their elbows, knees and legs where they belong. Technically, the 12 already know this so I only have 3 to worry about. They will also have assigned times to shoot so only 5 are on the range at any given time.
I'm to space out the best shooters because if one is quarantined, probably all five in the group will be quarantined. If I am quarantined, the team is shut down until my return.
Should be a fun season.
A few minutes ago our mayor, a long time hard core communist, walked past my home with his deputy. In the middle of the road. A few months ago the community police put a letter in our boxes saying that parking on the other side of the road was prohibeted and would be met with fines.
There is no sign telling that it is prohibited, plus, on my side of the road, we have a three meter wide pedestrian and cyclist track. And not a single parking slot for 400 meters, other than the neglected other side of the road.
I wrote an email to the community police, mayor in cc, reminding them that we have that wide track almost no-one uses, so, maybe, they should fine or educate (better choice, I wrote) those who don’t use it. And that’s the vast majority of people!
Then we have plenty criminals driving at foolish speed and also overtaking in front of my home, in the middle of homes. Never a cop to be seen in those circumstances...
I, obviously, never received any answer.
So, tonight, waiting for the cell to be sealed (we’re getting into lockdown tonight), I just looked at them and reminded them that we had a great, wide, safe pedestrian and cyclist track.
The deputy tried to answer in a badass way, but the mayor, talking on the phone, told him to get on the track and shut up.
I was so upset intimately, that I was looking for a discussion...
That’s not good at all...
It's really amazing at how fast and how easy some people just go full dictatorship on you and that the masses seem completely willing to allow them to do it. I don't know what would happen if they tried that here in the US. Probably quite different reactions between the cities and the towns and country. Cities would probably break down into two groups, those that hide and the rioters. Towns and country are going to ignore the orders, dare them to enforce them and fight back if they try. My perception anyway. Always be some sheep no matter where you're at.
I may have to change my assessment I made yesterday. I think war may very well be coming. Large Trump crowd peacefully protesting in the capital today and as they broke up and were going home, Antifa started assaulting them all over the place. Targeting families with kids even. Antifa didn't dare approach when they were together but like animals, they know enough to divide the herd and assault the weak. People won't put up with this anarchy much longer.
They are deliberately driving the panic again. All you hear now is the massive record number of new cases and how some hospitals are being overwhelmed. Schools are shutting down again and going to remote learning.
I had a neighbor come up to me yesterday and tell me Philadelphia had 1000 deaths over the weekend, I said I doubted that and he said he didn't know but it had to be bad because he saw them taking the body bags out of the hospitals. He also said they shut Philly down. That was about the only part he got right.
But all it is is the numbers, 1,000,000 CHILDREN have now tested positive. PANIC, PANIC, PANIC. Right in the middle of all this is how the transition to Biden will result in more deaths if it doesn't start now. He hasn't won the election yet. He is NOT the President Elect even though the media is calling him that. He may become President Elect but he is not President Elect yet.
This all smacks of more propaganda to push this election result.
Meanwhile, the truth. It has become much more difficult to find out how many people actually are dying. You would think this would be the priority. Pennsylvania, the entire state, has been on a downward trend since November 7th. In the last 7 days they reported, the high was 20 and the low which was also the last day reported was 3. How do you get 1000 out of that for one city?
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All this is the same here. Never let a good panic go to waste, sell news at all cost. It will be interesting in a few years to see what this is all actually about.Quote:
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The same question I'm asking to myself in these days...Quote:
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The sad part to me is I wore the uniform for 35 years to allow these very people around me to make their own decisions, freedom of choice. Now they're knuckling under without a question or protest. Wonder what the guys that went under before us would think? It may take several years, maybe after I'm gone...but it'll come to light.
Not very much.Quote:
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Although I had a very limited service period compared to yours, I understand that perfectly.Quote:
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If I think of my dad, who saw the war, or my grandparents, who really lived it (and my granddad father’s side fought in both), I can’t do anything but agree. Even us, guys from the late 60ies early 70ies, we are just... different from the new generations. We had a free childhood. Something which most people can’t imagine anymore now.
Today, my great joy was my youngest daugthter when we came to her school. The kids can’t touch each other, they can’t even lend each other a pencil!!! But when we got to 50 metres from school, one of her friends ran toward her and embraced her shouting like crazy. I felt so gooooooooooooood!!!!
When another kid said that it was not allowed, i winked and she ran into the school building, happy!
There is a limit to everything!
God save the kids!
So latest I've read is that in Pennsylvania you are now "encouraged" to wear a mask in the privacy of your own home. :runaway::runaway::runaway:
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I have not heard that but it wouldn't surprise me. We have a real nutcase for a health secretary. Pediatrician with some issues.Quote:
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got one of those in my governor's house at the moment.Quote:
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My son-in-law sent me the updated guidelines. You are correct sort of. If there are two or more households meeting in the same house, you are to wear masks. They have zero intention of enforcing it however. Same with all the other new craptastic things, they came up with. The want voluntary compliance. Baaaaaaaaaa. I'm no sheep. They say deaths are going up again which is a load of crap, they've been going down for the past two weeks and they are no where near the max. Cases per day are even going down. They are four days behind which makes no sense but the last day of record had 4 deaths.
That came in here about a month or two ago, before that no mask. Just the barber. He said the people that told him the new rules have admitted not having any idea what's next or what's going on or why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve762
And now the numbers stopped making sense. I checked the Covid 19 tracker which show Pennsylvania with 108 new deaths when the Pennsylvania state tracker shows 8 with no day over 30 in the last week. So someone is cooking to books or under reporting. As the Covid 19 tracker is supposed to be getting data direct from the state which creates the state tracker, it would seem to be them.
Strange times we live in. My youngest daughter's husband is a peace officer that looks after homeless shelters. Every time a case is reported they claim to not feel well.
3 times in the last 4 months he self isolated for 14 days, why buy a cow when when you can milk it for for free.
I put on a suit and tie to go to my office in the basement work. Got tired of pajamas every day.
If this goes on another year, teleworking 90%+ of the time, I'll likely find a quiet cabin in the woods - there is no reason to be in the middle of this swamp running the rat-race if I don't have to show up to work. Cost of living is so high here compared to a cabin out west, I could fly in for the couple of in person meetings a year and still make out.
I'm thinking West Virginia. I'd prefer a nice quiet place where my kids can still to go to school. This online only school has been a disaster for my small kids.
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They'll never learn to socialize...Quote:
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Media has sold it.
Seen on the 'News' today the panic shopping at a Costco. Shopping carts as full as possible with toilet paper.
Our World famous Gov Whitmer is planning on another shutdown.
Nov 19- Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said she has the authority to issue a second stay-at-home order to curb the spiking coronavirus.
Nov 19- Three Republican lawmakers in Lansing have introduced articles of impeachment against Governor Gretchen Whitmer.
Michigan Stores and private business less than 1 mile from the Indiana and Ohio border are being closed by State order. Across the State border stores are open.
Nov 19- The militia group accused of planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer previously discussed taking over the state Capitol building and staging a weeklong series of televised executions of public officials, authorities said.
Some of the suspects belonged to the Wolverine Watchmen, an anti-government militia. The group concocted two separate plans during a Second Amendment rally in June in front of the Capitol building in Lansing.
One involved recruiting 200 men to storm the building while lawmakers were in session, according to court documents.
"They were to take hostages, execute tyrants and have it televised," court documents read. "It would take about one week and that no one is coming out alive." Fox News
The armed groups are planning another assault on our State Capitol in Lansing, MI.
But you didn't hear that from me.
Strip clubs are open in California. Churches are closed. Do you need more information than that ?
Ch-P777
Again? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.Quote:
Originally Posted by painter777
Saw this meme for the hoarders! LOL!
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In any case...I sell toilet paper. Got a ton of it and an open sorce for new one.
I accept offers.
Shipping to be quoted depending on quantity.
:lol:
Most Retarded curfew yet! I'm in awe of the stupidity!
"The curfew, which the state is calling a "limited Stay at Home Order," stops short of a full lockdown. It will be in effect from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. starting Saturday. "
Just between 10PM and 5AM, the rest of the time PARTY ON!
https://abc7.com/governor-newsom-cal...geles/8101518/
https://abc7.com/video/embed/?pid=8108025
Yeah, the toilet paper and paper towels are gone here already. My wife went down to the big bulk store today and they had none. She said it's the first time they've had none. I went over to Walmart after practice and they had some paper towels and one small batch of 12 roll packs of toilet paper. I was good and just got one of each.
First day of practice went well. The kids seem to be handling this better than I expected.
And you'll be needing it for all the BS to come ! :surrender:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
It's like they learned nothing from the first time around. NY is closing their schools down again and Fauci and the CDC are both saying they need to stay open, that schools are the safest place for kids to be. The transmission rate in schools in NYC is about a third what it is in the general population and they are finding that most cases in the schools are coming from outside the schools.
One of the schools in our league still has not opened for in person instruction so they can't start practice. December 7th is their first day for the year. All the rest have been open from early September to my knowledge although a big school in Reading PA never opened either.
This mask garbage just keeps getting worse as well. The state told the Pittsburgh Steelers that they MUST WEAR MASKS WHILE PLAYING. Can you imagine the gall. They can't enforce this so it will be interesting to see what the Steelers and the visiting team does. I may break my boycott just to see how this plays out. High school championship football game last night, the coaches gave the kids the option and they didn't wear masks, you can't play football, basket ball etc wearing a mask. And they never clarified anything so the swim teams are operating under the assumption that they have to wear masks while swimming.
And the MASKS DON'T DO A DAMN THING. I thought this crap would be over with the election but with that still up in the air it's like they have to make life as complicated as possible as a distraction.
My kids are supposed to wear safety glasses while shooting. It's a needless rule in an air rifle league, probably a holdover from the 22 days when there actually was a slight risk of blowback from a bad case. But so far, while at least three of the 8 coaches have agreed we should do away with them, the other 5 and the league chair are silent. My AD told me that they need to do what they need to do to be able to shoot but I shouldn't put those instructions down in writing anywhere.
It's just crazy. More restaurants are announcing permanent closures. Philadelphia for on has banned all indoor dining. Like people are going to sit outside to eat in the evenings in the cold. Our days now are in the 50's maybe 60's like yesterday but as soon as the sun goes down they drop to the 40's. In another few weeks it will be the 30's. They can't survive. And studies have shown that transmission in restaurants is almost zero.
A clear indication of what all this is about can be seen in Trump doing everything he can to get the vaccines out as soon as possible, even saying they should have enough doses for 300 million people before the end of the year and one state, New York and their governor Cuomo are doing everything they can to stop it so Trump can't get credit for it. They are actually trying to make this a Biden success when the man has done absolutely nothing, is not even receiving security briefings because he is not yet the President elect. So Cuomo says he won't give his people a rushed vaccine, Trump says fine, we'll distribute it elsewhere and then the State of New York files a lawsuit against Trump for withholding the Vaccine. They are freaking nuts.
Toilet paper doesn't seem to be a thing here, this time.
Ovidio-- Do you sell condoms, too LOL!!Quote:
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Might do...:lol:
In any case, Saturday has been a great day.
I went out early for a couple hours of fast walking. Made 14 km and, once back home, I found a WhatsApp message from the president of our shooting range for handguns. Range open and we could all go.
So I called him and got to know, that the chief of police, who he called on the phone, told him all ranges were open and that, since we are considered athletes, in the “country of bureaucracy” we were entitled to go where we could practice our sport.
Plus, our range is affiliated to the Italian Olympic Commitee, so there was absolutely no doubt.
Last, and most interesting info, he said that police and carabinieri had been instructed by the higher echelons, not to harass the population.
Only blatant trespassing has to be addressed and punished.
Lacking the government, the other public officials seem to be starting to apply common sense.
That made my day.
So, I went to the range and shot well, enjoying every second there.
High school is going virtual for the week after Thanksgiving. Not sure why, if anyone gets infected on Thanksgiving, it will take a week for them to show symptoms. All sports at the high school level on hold for the same time period.
We have been given a voluntary stay at home advisory and one of the stupidest things they've done yet. They stopped alcohol sales on Thanksgiving eve. I simply cannot fathom what they think this will accomplish. It's one evening. I guess they don't want a bunch of drunks going to grandma's house the next day because when you're drunk, you are 1000 times more infectious.
Just received per WhatsApp the new regulations for our region. Everything has been shut down again. No sports, no restaurants and bars (it was already so), no visits to other households if not strictly necessary, no stay on public soil without face cover...and so on.
I did very well to seize the opportunity and go shooting Saturday. Carpe Diem!
But in general, I'm quite upset.
I want to be given general rules of behaviour, not prohibitions. As long as I follow the rules, I should be allowed to do whatever I please.
Little dictators springing up everywhere here...
One more thing I can't stand anymore. As it happened in March and the following months, suddenly I meet Carabinieri and city police every time I am out in my small village.
When burglars start pillaging whole blocks, they never have men and resources to be out, but now that it's the honest citizen who need to be oppressed, they are all about.
I don't blame the men out on the streets, but those who give them those orders.
If there's something that gives a really democratic and free person the itching, it's things like these.
I wore the uniform myself, with great pride and dedication. I really hate it to feel uneasy when I see uniforms on the roads...
That is a really "great" accomplishment of the idiots ruling our country...
While we have many layers of police, the majority of them have already refused to enforce anything they consider un-Constitutional. The Governor only controls the State Police and even they have reservations about some of the things but they also are somewhat restricted because they can arrest and charge someone but the local district attorney's have also said they will not enforce these laws so the State Police can file but they will be ignored. Obviously it can mess up your day especially if they decide to take you into custody. Not likely unless you make an *** of yourself and tick them off.
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You must try to keep in mind that it is not the man in front of you who is oppressing you, but his "masters".
The only thing is that sometimes even the best officer says the wrong thing in the wrongest way to the wrong person.
I imagine myself in one of those days... I guess everyone of us can understand what I mean, one of those days where you are intimately upset. Where maybe lots of tiny things have gone wrong, someone has got you nervous...you're just at the edge of your capability of keeping calm. For many or even no reason, you're just so. And right at that moment comes an officer who strokes you against the grain...
The more the tension rises, the more everybody must be careful interacting with the police and the police with people.
A colleague of mine, who has been a policeman for quite a few years and still is co-operating with them as a volunteer, showed me the internal guidelines sent to the police chiefs and to the government by our national chief of the police.
He admonishes all his men not to act following reports from other citizen, especially for things happening in private homes. To be extremely careful and not fine as long as the behaviour was really completely out of tolerable, to be as comprehensive as possible with older people and also with kids. Lots of such very good and very common sense instructions. What I liked most, however, is that he reminds his men, and so also the government, that it would be a good thing to have all the new regulations checked by our constitutional court, because there are plenty of doubts about lots of topics concerning the Covid-regulations. That the Police is still subject to the Constitution and not the government.
A ray of sun...
Since when is it ok for a governor, or anyone, to declare what is essential and what is not? In California you can go to a strip club, but not a church, Michiganders could go to isle 4 in Lowes for soap, but don't you dare walk over to isle 9 where the seeds are. "Growing your own food spreads the virus dontchaknow!" Where are equal protection lawsuits? 10th amendment? "You can only go to the big grocery store, not the small one and certainly not the outdoor farmer's market!" There is no checks and balances when the whole bureaucracy is in on the game. The virus may be causing a pandemic, but it's this kind of BS that's causing the panic.
Why am I more worried about rioters (sorry twitter/facebook, I meant to say protesters) burning down my house because of my Gadsden flag out front than I am about this virus? Well, if I wasn't, I would probably be a bit more willing to listen when they say "Virus no big deal...wait big deal...but certainly no masks - makes it worse...wait yes masks...but no school, no seeds, no church,...but strippers hell yeah!"
"Show me your papers! No papers? Your kids can't go back to school then". My kids haven't been to school since last Feb.
That's my vent. I'll stop now. Stay safe everyone.
Pretty much my feelings. General rules and no further interference in people's lives. No-one can tell me what is important, essential, worthy to me. They can only tell me what I need to do to be able to do something I want to do. Once I follow the rules, the rest is only my business.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgross
But that's pretty difficult to make clear to people who consider themselves democratic and enlightened people only because they say so. Curiously enough, also here it's the "snow whites" who would deprive you of all of your freedom like they feel fitting. We were prohibited to go to mass, but we could go to the governing party's festival, where thousands of people gathered without any police controls. Broadcasted on tv, but no trouble. By the way, they are the same that ran around flying red flags until a few years ago. Now they prefer to show the rainbow flag, but keep the red t-shirt under the parka... And they are soooooo humane, sooooooo democratic. Until you share their opinion. If you dare dissenting...
I dissent.
I think the worst part of this thing is no one is playing by the same rule book. No one has figured out what will help and what's just control. Every single area here spoken of is doing something different...we aren't doing anything the way you all are. Different, so, ineffective.
Sure you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
Control.
I fear for our country.
In all my extra free time locked away at home, I finished reading Madison's journals on the convention, and many of the debates in the first congress. Makes me furious. They knew then, and blatantly expressed, that the real enemy was power, corruption, money, control. They hoped that "checks and balances" would put some teeth into the document to allow general good nature to check the bad apples (there is some British example here of Cromwell executing the authors of the first British constitution?). I don't think they imagined that a bueracracy itself would be so corrupt as to usurp their checks and balances.
Policy isn't law. But our bureaucracy seems to have no problem treating policy from unelected dept. heads as the same as law. The "check and balance" here isn't supposed to be the courts, which refuse to hear the case many times anyway, but the legislature. Pass a law if you want me to follow your rules....edicts from some unelected basement official aren't laws. The only bodies that can roll back executive authority are legislative. They, after all, gave the executive bureaucracy all of its extra "emergency" powers to begin with.
There are some pretty great things that Madison recorded...quotes from Washington who was president of the convention and the like - makes me laugh and cry at the same time on almost every paragraph.