The most interesting stats: what proportion of each group that was diagnosed actually died, does not seem to be there, but could be extrapolated.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterChief
Printable View
The most interesting stats: what proportion of each group that was diagnosed actually died, does not seem to be there, but could be extrapolated.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterChief
The reason for the high infection and death rate of the top four isn't clear. Possibly cultural, access to health care, nutrition, living space, age, etc, or a combination of factors, that might not be so easy to determine and probably difficult to fix.
It also isn't broken down on how many of those Latinos are illegal Mexicans crossing the border for medical treatment since they can't get it in Mexico.
Big news here. The masks are finally off if you have been vaccinated. The CDC and the administration have been being ripped apart lately by some very high profile individuals and they finally admitted to several very key points. The first is that there is almost zero transmission of the disease outdoors. Second, if you've been vaccinated, wearing a mask is pointless.
So the masks are off indoors and outdoors IF you are vaccinated. Of course EVERYONE is now going to be vaccinated that doesn't want to wear a mask but not much you can do about it.
That was my big question about the recent announcement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
Guess I'll have to try to find my vaccine card...probably on the floor of my truck somewhere.
Here, they are keeping the line short even on us with a vaccine. Because discrimination...
The other thing that is bringing me on the verge of rebellion is the curfew: it is admittedly useless (the chief of the emergency team said it clearly), but it is kept as a deterrent.
I CAN'T ACCEPT TO BE DEPRIVED OF MY FU...ING RIGHTS BECAUSE IT HAS A DETERRENT EFFECT.
But so many idiots just approve it.
Democracy and freedom are not for everybody. They can not be granted if people are not willing to defend every inch of terrain when it comes to such things.
I am very worried, because people here are in a very high percentage ready to trade their freedom for a theoretical safety. We all know the quote from Benjy... He was tragically right.
I'm struggling right now...
I'm about to test out the no mask wearing. Trip to Walmart and Cabela's to pick up my pistol. Some weren't wearing them last night but I've been out of the loop news wise all week working out of town.
As for the vaccine card. I took a photo of it on my phone. I don't plan on showing it, they can't demand to see it either. Could be interesting. I doubt it though. Worse comes to worse at Cabela's I'll put the mask on until I have the pistol in hand. It's already paid for anyway.
On Ovidio's post: We have a high percentage here perfectly willing to trade in their freedoms also and they generally run right along party lines. It has ceased being difficult to tell which party people belong too these days or which style of government they support.
I do a lot of polls, for a company that was just quoted nationally last week. I probably participated in the poll they quoted. Their polls are a complete load of crap. They ask a very important question early on, second or third question. How you answer that question determines what the next series of questions will be. I was becoming somewhat appalled by the results of the questions because they were getting 95% consensus and that is statistically impossible in a poll. Occasionally they send me the same poll twice. So I answered the opposite way on that key question and low and behold, they had 95% agreement on that side also. Of course there I answered normally and was in the 3% minority. And this company was used I think to promote taking the vaccine I believe with 80% approval of this that or the other thing. Totally bogus.
Well here there's absolutely NO talk about masks coming off. Not even an end date. People have been vaccinated and still are wearing masks...cards? What cards? Once again, NO ONE doing ANYTHING the same way. Sounds like this whole thing is more to garnish money by someone already rich...than actually sort anything out.
Or for Political Gain, here in the USA. - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
I have no idea what's going on or why. Two days ago the pretender was running around saying it's patriotic to wear a mask even when vaccinated and yesterday there's a proclamation that those who are vaccinated no longer need to wear masks at all unless if in some very specific places. Mass transit seems to be the only exception. They are now arguing on the news who made the decision. The pretender's office states they had nothing to do with it that the CDC came up with it all on their own but they fully support it. The CDC was caught a few weeks ago letting one of the teachers unions decide policy for them so we don't know whos running them either.
But this does come after a couple of weeks of a prominent Republican Senator, ripping everyone he can a new one for the wearing of masks by vaccinated people.
I don't care. I went into four establishments today, three of which still had their signs up, without a mask and no one said boo. Two had people at the doors also and I exchanged pleasantries with both. The vast majority of people were still wearing masks but I was not the only one without. Of course some people weren't wearing masks to begin with so I don't know if I was one of the liberated ones or one of the rebels. I don't care. It was incredible being able to laugh and smile at people again. The fourth establishment was a rebel establishment so that didn't really count, a surplus store. Gun shops, surplus shops, etc haven't been requiring masks since day one.
I got some looks but none were critical, I overheard some conversations about "will you stop wearing a mask when you get vaccinated" type things. Everyone still seems in shock a bit. Only 20 states have reacted so far and I'm somewhat surprised that mine was immediate and fully with the CDC since our coward in chief disappeared for several months when this all started and has kept us shut down more than many other states.