1. having more than 10k rounds of ammo without a special storage permit from the fire chief
Is this a Massachusetts' requirement? Carl
1. having more than 10k rounds of ammo without a special storage permit from the fire chief
Is this a Massachusetts' requirement? Carl
Actually, in Massachusetts it is illegal to posess components without a permit. He may have had a 60 day grace period to get a permit but as a current resident he didn't have a right to buy additional components which are treated the same as ammunition. He already had a lot of components all he had to do was wait until he got the permit. He would have had to get a Class A license since he possessed a high capacity firearm.Quote:
Originally Posted by RED
Having said that, I've heard of two other people in different parts of Massachusetts who have been arrested for having large quantities of ammunition. In both instances the neighbors just complained about them for reasons other then guns.
I don't know what happened to them.
Are we dealing with "sneak" ammo control, the same kind of "ammunition registration" that the Maryland State Police have instigated using funds from a Brady Campaign grant. I am just jealous that I can't make a "grant" and buy some state cops to carry out my personal agenda. I wonder if they are cheaper by the dozen?
Jim
That is off the hook!
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Originally Posted by Carl R
CODE OF MASSACHUSETTS REGULATIONS
TITLE 527: BOARD OF FIRE PREVENTION REGULATIONS
CHAPTER 13.00: EXPLOSIVES
(1) Exemption: License, Registration, or Permit: In accordance with the provisions of M.G.L. c. 148 § 13, the Board hereby prescribes the following quantities of explosive materials that shall be exempt from License, Registration, and Permit and may be kept, or stored in a building or other structure:
(a) Small Arms Ammunition
1. Not more than 10,000 rounds of rim fire ammunition.
2. Not more than 10,000 rounds of center fire ammunition.
3. Not more than 5,000 rounds of shotgun ammunition.
(b) Small Arms Ammunition Primers
1. Not more than 1,000 caps or other small arms primers.
(c) Smokeless Propellants
1. Not more than 16 pounds.
1. Not more than 16 pounds.
2. Persons under 18 years of age may not keep or store Smokeless Propellants.
3. Not more than two pounds of such propellant shall be stored in a multiple family dwelling or a building of
public access.
(d) Black Powder
1. Not more than two pounds.
2. Persons under 18 years of age may not keep or store black powder.
(e) Exempt quantities of small arms ammunition, primers, smokeless propellants and black powder shall be stored in original containers and such containers shall be stored
in a locked cabinet, closet or box when not in use….
(2) Storage By Permit: In accordance with the provisions of M.G.L. c. 148 § 13, the Board hereby prescribes the following quantities of explosive materials that shall be exempt from License, and Registration, and may be kept, or stored in a building or other structure provided a permit has been obtained from the head of the local fire department;
(a) Small Arms Ammunition: Private Use. Small arms ammunition in amounts over that specified in 527 CMR 13.04(1), that do not exceed 100,000 total rounds at any one time, may be kept for private use provided none of the individual limitations listed below are exceeded.
1. 10,001 to 30,000 rounds of rim fire ammunition.
2. 10,001 to 50,000 rounds of center fire ammunition not to include shotgun ammunition.
3. 10,001 to 50,000 rounds of shotgun ammunition not to include center fire ammunition….
(c) Small Arms Ammunition Primers: Private Use
Not to exceed 10,000 Small Arms Ammunition Primers…..
(e) Smokeless Propellants: Private Use
1. Not to exceed 48 pounds Smokeless Propellants.
2. Persons under 18 years of age may not keep or store Smokeless Propellants.
3. The head of the local fire department may limit the quantity of smokeless propellants stored by permit to as low as two pounds if such propellant shall be stored in a multiple family dwelling or a building of public access.
(g) Black Powder: Private Use
1. Not to exceed five pounds of black powder.
2. Persons under 18 years of age may not keep or store black powder.
3. The head of the local fire department may limit the quantity of black powder stored by permit to as low as two pounds if such black powder shall be stored in a multiple family dwelling or a building of public access.
13.11: Small Arms Ammunition and Primers, Smokeless Propellants, and Black Powder
(1) Basic Requirements.
(a) 527 CMR 13.11 shall apply to the transportation and storage of small arms ammunition, primers and components, smokeless propellants and black powder.
(b) In addition to all other applicable requirements of 527 CMR 13.00, intrastate transportation of small arms ammunition small arms primers, smokeless propellants, and black powder shall comply with U.S. Department of Transportation Hazardous Materials Regulations.
(c) 527 CMR 13.11 shall apply to the channels of distribution of and to the users of small arms ammunition small arms primers, smokeless propellants, and black powder.
(d) 527 CMR 13.11 shall not apply to in-process storage and interplant transportation during manufacture.
(2) Small Arms ammunition.
(a) No restrictions shall be imposed on the interstate transportation of small arms ammunition other than those imposed by the U.S. Department of Transportation or by other hazardous materials regulations.
(3) Small Arms ammunition Primers.
(a) Small arms ammunition primers shall be transported, kept, or stored in containers approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation.
(b) Transportation of small arms ammunition primers shall comply with U.S. Department of Transportation Regulations.
(c) No more than 5,000 small arms ammunition primers shall be transported in a private vehicle.
(d) No more than 5,000 small arms primers shall be stored in residences.
(4) Smokeless Propellants.
(a) Transportation of smokeless propellants not exceeding 25 lbs in a private vehicle, shall be transported in shipping containers approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation.
(b) Transportation of quantities of smokeless propellants exceeding 25 lbs but not exceeding 48 lbs, in a private vehicle, shall be transported in a portable magazine having wood walls of at least one inch nominal thickness, and permitted by the Marshal in accordance with 527 CMR 13.04(6).
(c) Transportation of more than 48 lbs. of smokeless propellants in a private vehicle is prohibited.
(e) Smokeless propellants shall be stored in original shipping containers specified by U.S. Department of Transportation Hazardous Materials Regulations.
(f) Smokeless propellants intended for private use in quantities not exceeding 48 lbs stored in residences shall be kept in the original manufacturers container or in a wooden box or cabinet having wooden walls of at least one-inch nominal thickness. All smokeless propellants stored in private residences shall be stored in the original containers; such containers shall be secured in a locked cabinet, closet, or box when not in use.
(5) Black Powder.
(a) Black powder not exceeding five lbs transported in a private vehicle, shall be transported in shipping containers approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation.
(b) Transportation of quantities of black powder exceeding five lbs but not exceeding 25 lbs, in a private vehicle, shall be transported in a portable magazine having wood walls of at least one inches nominal thickness, and permitted by the Marshal in accordance with 527 CMR 13.04(6).
(c) Transportation of more than 25 lbs. of blackpowder in a private vehicle is prohibited. l
M.G.L.A. 148 § 10B
Violation of regulations of the board
Any person who knowingly violates any rule or regulation made by the board of fire prevention regulations shall, except as otherwise provided, be punished by a fine of not
Looks to me like the main problem here is not the fact he was hoarding ammo, having it without the proper permits, and can't answer to just what he was doing with it.
The problem here is he was LIVING in a gun hating, too many regulations, blue state.
When his arsenal grew to more than one box of ammo, he should have got out of that infested area.
Myself and a few others at the club usually buy by the 5000 round case so an order of 20,000 to 30,000 is the norm. Og G-- hope we don't go to jail! Bunch of liberal ********s up east need to go back to civic's class.
Gun control by Fire Ordinances is what it looks like to me.
Hey Jim - Elaborate your your comment! Sounds like a "Cheap Shot" to me:nono::nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim K
All I know,Fireman in my village don't like stockpiles of Ammo in a burning house,and do have a right to know of such.I know I would!