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"Funny tho we never hear how under powered a 9mm SMG was..German MP40.. The Carbine has more than double the power of the 9mm.. The Soviets used the 7.62x25 in their SMGs.. 74gr bullet@1600fps.. Killed Germans well enough in the Russian winter.."
The above is very true.
It seems that only the Americans were preoccupied with caliber deficiency issues. The rest of the world seemed satisfied with the caliber of the weapons they used against their foes.
I've been carrying a M1 carbine in M1A1 configuration as a LEO patrol carbine for nearly 10 years and have been very pleased with it. I regulary shoot side by side with black rifles in LE tactical training courses and the M1 carbine holds it's own, and it a few cases has some measurable advantages. Unfortunately, the one disadvantage these days is cost of ammo.
My carbine is totally built from scratch with a new Springfield, Inc., receiver with a unused Winchester barrel and unissued USGI parts. Operates flawlessly with soft or hollow point ammo and is plenty accurate.
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Back in 1998 my department procured 65 surplus M1 carbines from a law enforcement only source. It was here that I first had the opportunity to really learn about M1 carbines and how to make them work as if your life depended on them. I was tasked with making as many of these carbines serviceable as law enforcement patrol carbines to be issued to both full time and reserve sheriff's deputies in our department. Although it was not my full time assignment, it was an assignment that I thoroughly enjoyed and after about a year and a half I had all 65 completely stripped, cleaned, repaired and serviced (replacing springs, extractors, entire bolts and slides as needed) and stocks refinished or replaced. I actually refinished around 40 of the stocks back to near original configuration, and for the record I prefer BLO over Tung Oil.
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Do you get any strange looks from the black rifle crowed? +1 on your departments acquisition. It is a shame about the price and availability of ammo. I know some of the smaller departments, in my area, are having trouble with all calibers and curtailing shooting range sessions.Quote:
Yesterday 03:41 PM
Faulkner
I've been carrying a M1 carbine in M1A1 configuration as a LEO patrol carbine for nearly 10 years and have been very pleased with it. I regulary shoot side by side with black rifles in LE tactical training courses and the M1 carbine holds it's own, and it a few cases has some measurable advantages.
Combine that 1950 fps with a hollow-point and you have a real urban winner! On the Korea question, I'd agree with BS and operator error. My guess is the boys were firing too soon on auto fire out of panic in 'human wave' attacks. Recoil moved the muzzles up and sent their fire too high. That plus the heavy, frozen coats. The .30 Carbine has adequate penetration at 100 yards even with heavy, frozen coats, but you have to hit the target. I'm guessing they were spraying fire over their heads starting at 300 yards. With the more powerful semi-auto M1 Rifle, I'd say the tendency would be to take better aim for each shot.
Did you do any "polishing" of feedramp for minimizing softnose stuttering?
Did that to mine, no loves the softnosed ammo.
"no", should read "now" The oldhiemers kicking in!
Ive never had to do any work to any of my carbines to make them work. Ive used them in each one of my carbines at one time or another and never had any feeding problems or problems of any sort in any of them.
Just a thought, and I could be wrong about it... possibly a slightly weak recoil spring could cause the slide not to return with enough strength to easily chamber a round with a soft tip.
John
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