I gotta say, I'm skeptical about judging cartouches from pictures... I like to examine them in hand, with a loupe... too many ways to mis-judge with a pic.
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I gotta say, I'm skeptical about judging cartouches from pictures... I like to examine them in hand, with a loupe... too many ways to mis-judge with a pic.
Well, there's not much to be skeptical about with that one. It's not just the cartouche; there are several things wrong with the stock itself. Trust us...this one's a stinker!
I suppose the lack of an "I" cut may make a difference... but the stock may be one of those supplied by Inland. All I'm saying is I just don't make conclusions based solely on internet pictures any more. I've learned my lesson... shall we say.Quote:
Originally Posted by 604flyer
But I am just a beginner, only been collecting these for maybe 10 years. Always something new to learn. :)
I agree: stock is a fake. It's a shame: final bid was $610.
eBay - US WWII M1 carbine stock set Irwin Pedersen High wood
Pics posted for posterity …. :thup:Quote:
Seller rgmindian said:
I bought this many years ago in hopes of finding and restoring an Irwin Pedersen M1 carbine. I have since sold most of my carbines except a few but can not afford to get myself an IP so I am selling my beautiful stock set. Overall condition is excellent with nice and readable IP IR on the stock cheek, in the sling slot and on handguard. No buttplate but includes band spring. Nice solid no cracks or repairs. if you are restoring an IP, you may want to consider this stock. Stock has been sanded at one time but there are no apparent arsenal marks that I can find. There is no P on the wrist area. Paypal preferred at close of auction. Shipping $25 for the US more elsewhere. More pictures available on request. Questions? please ask.
eBay Auction .. Sold for $610.00
Regards,
Badger
So can y'all elaborate on why it's a fake? From the pics? It's good that you know, but can you share this knowledge?Quote:
Originally Posted by macgunner01
Thanks,
snapper
Inland supplied stocks to a furniture company? HUHQuote:
Originally Posted by snapperm1c
simplest part of forgery is there are no oval oiler cut original IP marked stocks, S'G' took over plant in march or april of 43--all real IP stocks were I-cuts-somebody is 600 smackers poorer today and is going to feel mighty foolish, at least they didn't buy a original IP gun with that stock on it. There are oval cut S'G' marked stocks on IP guns. There is another obvious error to the cartouche also which if you don't know don't matter, just do not use Harrison's cartouche guide for a IP cartouche, it is dead wrong.
Remember the days when you could contact the buyer/high bidder and give them a heads up? No one but the seller will be able to contact the buyer once the auction is done either. Too bad more people don't come by and visit with us more often. We could have a great deal of fun!
I have a pretty early IP wearing a I-cut S'G', so I would assume all IP cartouched stocks will be I-cut as well.