WIN 13 Type 8 Safety ....... Do they really exist? What say you?

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Originally Posted by StoneTemplePilot

Jesse did have some errors in his earlier book on the M1 that he sent to me. Some of his explainations and conclusions were drawn from observing a large grouping of Captain Crunch parts that were either later crunched or saved from the jaws for honor teams or their like. There was no complete rifle data from that particular source.

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STP,

Let me see if I understand this correctly: Harrison determined a WRA round topped safety existed from a pile of loose, stripped random parts which were not seen in any complete rifles and publishes it, then Babcock swears to it and publishes the same?

God help us................:)

Hack..........Yes, A pile of parts pulled off rifles that were earmaked for the Captain. M1 research at its finest...ZIKES!

William J.......Been looking for that Rev 14 bolt too, but not as hard as my search for the CM marked WRA bolt. Seen Two in 25 years.....Bought zero. Had to buy the rifle on one and the other was owned by a rather wierd type who use to visit my table at Springfield Mass and show me his trinkets which I was never allowed to purchase. Then one day he just stopped coming to the shows and lost contact and never could document with a photo :( STP

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Originally Posted by Ramboueille

STP,

Let me see if I understand this correctly: Harrison determined a WRA round topped safety existed from a pile of loose, stripped random parts which were not seen in any complete rifles and publishes it, then Babcock swears to it and publishes the same?
God help us................:)

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Not only that, but Jesse actually told me (in person at a Tulsa gun show years ago) that looking at some boxes of various, loose parts constituted just about all of his research before writing his book. Also interesting that some of the boxes of parts belonged to a neighbor who had been an Army officer in charge of a major armory that rebuilt M1s. Lots & lots of lockbar sights and uncut op rods in those boxes. I bought a bunch when they were up for sale.

As we all know, he never bothered to go back and fix the plethora of mistakes either. So sad that some folks tend to believe the written word, no matter what reality is.

That's why we try to be so super-careful in what we publish in the GCA Journal -- for many people, if it is in print it is Gospel. Bill Ricca will attest to how some of his early mistakes get repeated by subsequent authors until they become accepted "fact." Sometimes it is disheartening.

Bob Seijas is correct. Back circa 1986 I relied on Supply Bulletin 9-35 to identify a Grenade Launcher Manufacturer in a GCA article. Since then I have found many reasons why one should not rely on that information. It was never designed to identify piece markings.

We now have better documentation showing the actual name of the maker, but a few individuals will not go with the current confirmed information.

What/who made it? Why so much file work?

Lots of file work. Who made it?