I guess people today don't die as readily, huh? :) the M1 Carbine isn't as potent now.
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doesn't want to get shot with anything. Automatically dismissing a weapon as widely used as the carbine is just ignorance. FAL is an overpowered hot rod that is heavy, somewhat clumsy to use and not all that accurate (my own opinion based on handling and firing one). I'll take an M14 over that thing every time.
The salient fact about the carbines in the OP is that apparently none of them were imports, or at least not marked. That accounts for about 50% of the value.
I like the idea of FAL's. But when I shot one, I thought it exaggerated the recoil of the 7.62. I find my M1A to be a little friendlier in that regard. But mine is a Loaded and heavier. I've shot a Socom and a normal ole M1A (not heavy barreled) and I think the socom was the easiest of all of them to handle. All, IMHO, felt better than shooting the FAL. Which really is neither here nor there. Just thought I'd share. But it's kind of weird to come in a thread that was talking about the value of some carbines someone saw at a gun store and then say how lousy of a weapon they are. In a carbine dedicated forum.
I would not feel undergunned with a .30 carbine that was in good order. But neither would I with many types of weapons. But I don't have bad guys beating down my door, hopefully ever, so...... Plus, my M9 is my go to Defensive weapon. I'm a wuss and it's easy to shoot. :D
I own a FAL (I own lots of guns) and an M-14 (M1A) but I own four M1 Carbines (three of them all matching and correct) and my "defend the castle" gun is a Mixmaster M1 carbine fitted with an EOTEC sight and loaded with softpoint ammo. It's much lighter than the FAL and much easier to handle.
Inside of 100 yards it has the hitting power of a .357 Magnum (the energy drops rapidly after 100 yards but if I'm shooting at anyone at that great a range or even greater, I'm not really defending myself, am I?). And within 100 yards there is no way I can miss with that EOTECH sight.
It's better than a pistol and handier than a rifle in my opinion. Your mileage may vary.:madsmile:
Can we get a pic of your HD set up? I have thought about taking one of mine and doing that, I'm not sure I would, but I've thought about it.
Prices vary around the country along with the time of year. A $1000.00 does seem high to me.
I think it had to do with the then pending elections. I have less than $1,300 (including tax and DROS fees) into both Carbines I got from the local shop (original condition Inland and the super clean Standard Products mix-master). He did say, however, that Wednesday after the election he sold EVERY semi-auto, center fire rifle in the shop: AR15s, Winchester and Remington hunting auto-loaders, several Mini-14s, Kel-tech, etc. That was just the first day. He said he could have sold the carbines I got from him, at least 10 or 12 times over, for much more money. To his credit, he did not mark up the rifles (which had really decent prices on them) after the election. He has ordered many more for customers, and still uses the same formula for markup. Ed is local and has been a longtime member of the local sporting community for years. His customers are his neighbors and friends, and he treats them as such. Grass Valley/Nevada City is a fairly small community.