very nice Inland M1A1

It's nice. I have one that's almost as nice which was re-arsenaled from high to low wood. It looks like it was never used. That's a nicely marked position 8. Were there 12 positions? I'd like to have all 12 eventually.

Twelve M1A1's, all different buttplates? That is very ambitious.

Thanks, great pics ! Can you please tell us how you know it is ex Austrian ? There is some speculation on that subject ! A story yet to unfold. Mike.

First of all: CONGRATS Promo!!! What a beautiful M1A1, you were right not to pass on the opportunity even if the carbine has been demilled!!!!

Has anybody ever established if there were any M1A1 from the second production run that were delivered with a type 3 barrel band or were they all added during arsenal rebuilts?

Hole in donut, If you have Carbine Club newsletters refer to #348 p.4. Type 3 bands were used on M1A1's by inland 6.2,6.3 & 6.4 with Inland barrels from 9-44 thru 12-44. So the answer is yes. I have one as posted above. John

Thanks a lot John. Were there also M1A1 carbines in these serial ranges with type 2 bands or were they exclusively type 3?

When the type 3 band first came out it was used only on the M1A1 and as production of them increased it was then used on all carbines. But the the type 3 band was in use in November 1944 for sure and may have started in October 1944.

I've checked the rifle, it's indeed a hand stamped M1 :)

How I know it came from the Austrian Army? Well, for several reasons. One the one hand getting a demilled rifle in Austria it's almost pretty sure it came from the Austrian Army. On the other hand, it would be unlikely to get such a rifle which would have been civilean demilled. But what makes me sure about it is that one the one hand the guy I bought it from purchased it himself from the Austrian Army, and is also a "member" of the Austrian Army ;) . And in case this was the question: no, it does not have any markings which would identify it as Austrian possession.

Hole in donut, I did a quick search on the type 2 question. Type 2's were used in the second run of M1A1's, but only serial mentioned was 5.45xx. Promo, You may want to contact Jim Moak on Bavarian Carbines to see if he is aware of any that were unmarked in Austrian Usage. I believe he would be interested. Goggle Bavarian Carbines and you can find his email. John

Jim Mock

Like many here often, I collapsed the 'Sticky Threads' posted on the top of the page on the M1 M2 Forum.
There you can find this and many other great links.

HTH,
CH-P777

Bavarian M1 Carbines (Post WWII M1 Carbines in Germany Austria)