4T fake mounts

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Originally Posted by Jugs

Bit like Germen third Reich medal collecting, (boy there's lot's of fakes of them out there selling for hundreds and sometimes thousands of pounds) it's often in the 'feel' and 'weight' as well as the look of the item.

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Not just the third reich medals Jugs, I think there was around 700 men in the battle of Balaclava (Charge of the Light Brigade) I guess there is double or trebble that figure of Crimea medals relating to the charge in private collections etc now.

Trafalger medals are even made with scratches, dents and dings etc....

Like the oft-quoted statistic about the painter, Matisse: in his lifetime he painted 800 canvasses - 2,000 of which are now in America.

Thats a good one RobD, looking for an old post of mine which had a bit regarding fakes, the main point was that its estimated over 40% of the worlds artwork in museums etc is fake/forged.

Back to the reproduction items, I,m all for them, I,ve a LEC that has been waiting for some time for parts etc and is now 90% complete, and this is only down to a few enterprising indviduals Like DRP who go out there way to produce an item that is not on the shelves anymore, without them we would be shooting a lot more sporterised rifles etc than milspec rifles, its only when these repro,s are used by a third party to build up a fake and then proceed to make a few ££ by punting it out as an original then it becomes a problem.

Regarding your quote Robd, I Just wonder how many not correct No4T,s are in cirulation today?

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Originally Posted by RobD

Like the oft-quoted statistic about the painter, Matisse: in his lifetime he painted 800 canvasses - 2,000 of which are now in America.

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Yes, and what is a "fake" in the art world when there are painters as technically brilliant as the "old masters", perhaps even greater, as some of them could and can produce perfect copies of the same.

I read a few years ago an article about reproductions/replicas. If I have this the right way around, it stated that generally a replica was a copy of an item made by the same company/individual as the original and a reproduction was a copy of an item by a individual/company other than the original.

There are still a few "saddlers" ("Sattler") around here in Germany and in the western parts of Poland (maybe even in Bohemia) who still have the lasts etc. for Luger (P08) regulation pistol holsters. And some are still being sold. Are these copies, originals or fakes? And when did they stop being "original" and "genuine"? Maybe directly after the German capitulation was signed? Almost any item that was not hand crafted can be manufactured to original specifications.