Post the name of the gun show and the dealer's name here, so others can keep an eye out for him in the future .. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ob1
Regards,
Doug
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Post the name of the gun show and the dealer's name here, so others can keep an eye out for him in the future .. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ob1
Regards,
Doug
The dealer knew what was going on. He swapped a fake for a real K98. Good deal for the dealer.
Please don't let your brother kick himself over this. The only way you find out about this is to have it happen to you. Most of us have made our share of ..."Less than stellar" deals. That's how we know. I've had to watch silently a time or two while something shady went down too. Mostly because it was none of my business.
You have to cut your losses and move on with new knowledge. On the up side, you have what appears to be a nice shootable 8mm.
I'm thinking the guy committed fraud and could be prosecuted for it. It's the only way guys like this are going to be stopped. It's one of the reasons I hate shows like the "Pickers" because if you know how much something is worth and you offer them an extremely low price for it, it's fraud and against the law. They do that sort of thing all the time. It's KNOWING that makes the difference. This guy deliberately made a bad deal, knowing what he had and what he was getting.
Before I broke my back 5yrs ago I would've thought of one other way to stop scumbags like this and it wouldn't involve "understanding and compromise"
It sounds like an RC was traded for an RC with fake markings which stinks but the real loss was $200 and some pride. We live and learn.
Knowledge is everything in the gun collecting world.
My wife is always giving me a hard time about taking a case of reference books with us, when we set up at gun shows.
Years back when I lived in Spokane I saw a deal go that was poor. A collector died and his wife sold the collection for $500.00 down and the rest as it was sold off. The dealer who got the collection wrote "Total sale" on the $500.00 check. He then refused to pay for the rest of the collection. No contract was signed and she went to the Police. Who could not help her as the only paper was the check. It was for a total sale and the deed was completed. That woman needed that money but too bad. Lots of crooks at gunshows, so do pay attention.
Never listen to a gun show dealers stories about how much a rifle is worth, if he loves collecting mausers i suggest he buy a book all about the codes,dates, and yr of manufacter , next time he can just look up the code and see he got took to the cleaners on this one ,Gun show guys love taking advantage of so called collectors dont know what they are looking at , they see you like the piece , up goes the price and here comes a made in concentration camp rifle or w/e story the can come up with that will get you to bite , kinda feel for ya bro , but gun dealers of milsurps love guys like him.Shame he traded a good collector gun PLUS money for a shooter. Unfortunatley honor is not among theives and he was most deff robbed, just shoot her now, he owns it .
i'll make you feel a little better. first by saying your brother is not alone in buying faked SS stuff. secondly by showing this:
Rare World War II Nazi Gustloff Marked K98 Bolt Action Rifle with Sling
at least he didn't pay that much for such an obvious fake.
Knowledge is power. Soooo much good information here. I try to inform myself before a purchase but often in the heat of the moment you just have to use the knowlage you possess along with instinct. I was saved a bad purchase on a Hakyem by a regular show attende who was kind enough to look it over for me (I was completly uninformed on the Haykem) It had seveal problems. BTW this is the same fellow who refunded me on a Garand I purchased from him when I found the barrel and reciever were spot welded. Not everyone at gunshows is a crook.