The New M1's Is This True ?

You nail it on the head, im fascinated with the M1, when i hold it, it take me back to what our big brothers carried and had to fight with instead of a M16A2. These are totally 2 different beasts. Since i have a couple of M1's '45 and 78 Iver and even thougn i have my Grandfathers Winchester M1, I never played with it or opened it, now i can open this one and take it apart and learn how to do everything to it and put it back, troubleshoot it, now i feel confident in opening my Grandfathers to see what it has and plus there are a few people here that are always willing to help. Thanks


Frank

I believe the price to be too high as well. I must say, I'd like to get my hands on one just to critique it and do a side by side comparison. Then there is the question of are these going to be artificially aged and potentially introduced into the collector segment for some unknowing or uneducated new collector to purchase?

They mention:

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These newly manufactured M1 Carbines are 100 percent American-made with 100 percent American parts. These are faithful copies of the original Inland Manufacturing carbines, right down to part construction and stampings. They even include the arsenal-stamped stock markings known as cartouches!

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The only saving grace may be the following:

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In fact, these carbines are so precisely copied from the original specifications that the company marks the underside of the barrel and the inside of the stock of these current models to prevent potential fraudsters from passing these new carbines as mint WWII originals, or using these new-production parts to “upgrade” original models (these markings are not visible unless the action is removed from the stock).

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Although I don't doubt for one minute that these "markings" could be defeated. Just saying ;)

I can see where there might be a market niche for a "brand new" carbon copy Inland M1 carbine, particularly as it is American made. I do wonder how they got around the brand copyright. If the quality is reasonably good I will bet you they will sell a few at a verey healthy profit and then start edging the price down to keep them moving. I don't think guys like us are their target market demographic, at least not at the current MSRP. 'Grandpa', who carried one in WWII, is probably gone now. But, I'll bet there are a few aging well-heeled baby boomers out there who know little about collecting the original carbines, and don't really care, but figure a brand new one just exactly like 'Daddy' carried in the war, and told them about throughout their whole lives, will be prettier and safer to shoot. I wish the manufacturer success. ChipS

One thing about a GI carbine, you can wonder where it has been, who held it, what did it do. You can watch real footage of WWII action and wonder "is that MY carbine?". I will stick to GI carbines unless a new one of quality is much lower in price just for a truck gun.

here is a link to their web site


Inland Manufacturing

"Veteran owned" - that's new since I posted the link a couple days ago. - Bob

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Originally Posted by ChipS

I do wonder how they got around the brand copyright.

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Read the comments below the article, it's mentioned they're made by Inland MFG., Dayton Ohio.

Is this the same MKS that had their M14-clones & M14 welded receivers seized by ATF in 2001-2002? Run by Mike Kelly? Hmmm, I'd like to know before sending in my deposit.

But, keep in mind, Fulton Armory is asking (& getting) around $1,500 for their "new" M1 carbines, but they use USGI receivers & USGI parts.

Note that the MKS literature doesn't use the word "forged" when describing the parts. I don't see how they can sell an M1 carbine for only $1,000 if they don't use cast parts.

Neal

EDIT: Vintage, well, yes, you are exactly right; FA is selling a rebuilt carbine for a lot of money. But, they are a few miles from where I live, & I've been inside their shop; their products are built one at a time by a skilled gunsmith, & every part is checked carefully & they really are top quality rifles. If you check the online auctions, most offered are beat up, or well used, or Korean imports, or Mixed Parts Mongrels; there are a lot of folks out there who don't know what to look for in a USGI carbine, & they know that the FA carbine will be safe, accurate, & durable.

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Originally Posted by Neal Myers

Fulton Armory is asking (& getting) around $1,500 for their "new" M1 carbines, but they use USGI receivers & USGI parts.

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I've often wondered about that. So, what it boils down to is the Fulton's carbines are really nothing more than refinished recent put togethers at near double the price of an honest as it left service rebuild mixmaster with original finish, yes? Or am I missing something?

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Originally Posted by Neal Myers

Mixed Parts Mongrels

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Careful there Neal, it don't take much to set the little guy off. It's gettin kinda sensitive in it's old age.:D:D
Seriously though, even they have the one thing that the majority of us milsurp collectors are interested in most.............HISTORY.

What's the story on that hand guard? - Bob