Looking for information on beautiful Steyr M95

It has nothing to do with the metal of the extractor. It is not a push feed design, it is a controlled feed. There is no 'up and over' for these extractors, they were never designed to preform that way (hence why they break). It is possible to load without the clips but it is a pain due to the fact you have to manually line it up in the magazine and slowly close the bolt so it rides under the extractor going in.

There are also very few original extractors left, mainly due to people doing as described, loading a round into the chamber and FORCING the extractor over the rim. Mauser extractors are designed with the same idea in mind (which is why gunsmiths used to modify the extractors on sporters to be able to load one in the chamber and close the bolt on it), and very few military issued rifles had a push feed design (off the top of my head the Commission 88 rifles did originally, and I believe Mosin Nagants can as well).

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Originally Posted by Eaglelord17

It has nothing to do with the metal of the extractor. It is not a push feed design, it is a controlled feed. There is no 'up and over' for these extractors, they were never designed to preform that way (hence why they break). It is possible to load without the clips but it is a pain due to the fact you have to manually line it up in the magazine and slowly close the bolt so it rides under the extractor going in.

There are also very few original extractors left, mainly due to people doing as described, loading a round into the chamber and FORCING the extractor over the rim. Mauser extractors are designed with the same idea in mind (which is why gunsmiths used to modify the extractors on sporters to be able to load one in the chamber and close the bolt on it), and very few military issued rifles had a push feed design (off the top of my head the Commission 88 rifles did originally, and I believe Mosin Nagants can as well).

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Do you have any other tips towards these M95s that I should be aware of? So that I dont bugger it up. Lol

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Originally Posted by LesPaui+sg=win

Do you have any other tips towards these M95s that I should be aware of? So that I dont bugger it up. Lol

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How about some more photos of this beautiful firearm? Yes, the rifles were unloaded in that last image. I try to get all angles in my pictures. [emoji13]

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A couple other little bits of advice is to use grease inside the bolt, not oil (I generally grease the inside of the bolt and use CLP on the outside in the action).

If the bolt is hard to work disassemble it and don't thread in the firing pin spring retaining nut all the way (leave it a half turn or full turn from completely tight). My M95 was absolutely terrible to try and cock, now it isn't bad (still could be better but its not anywhere near as bad as it was).

For shooting remember the rear sight is in Schritt which equates to about .75-.80 Metres. The battle sight (ladder folded down) is 500 Schritt or about 375 Metres. When the ladder sight is raised up the minimum setting is 300 Schritt or about 225 Metres (you have to raise the slider to see this setting). What this means is if you have ammo loaded exactly the same as Patrone M1893, that is where the sights will be. That being said odds are you will have to play around a bit with whatever ammo you end up with to find the proper setting and where to aim. It also means generally you will be shooting high (expecially if you shoot a lighter bullet, as that is supposed to be 225 Metres with a 250grn bullet).

The bores are in the .329-.330 depth range, and the original .323 bullet had a skirt on the base which was supposed to expand into the grooves. When shooting my M95 .323 bullets only lightly get pressed into the grooves, and key hole and tumble etc. (though generally they are still within a 10 inch group at 100m). The much larger bore was addressed with the later 8x56r round, which had a .329 bullet.

Overall they are cool guns, I know I tend to be attracted to anything Mannlicher, but I seem to be the minority. To each their own.

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Originally Posted by Eaglelord17

A couple other little bits of advice is to use grease inside the bolt, not oil (I generally grease the inside of the bolt and use CLP on the outside in the action).

If the bolt is hard to work disassemble it and don't thread in the firing pin spring retaining nut all the way (leave it a half turn or full turn from completely tight). My M95 was absolutely terrible to try and cock, now it isn't bad (still could be better but its not anywhere near as bad as it was).

For shooting remember the rear sight is in Schritt which equates to about .75-.80 Metres. The battle sight (ladder folded down) is 500 Schritt or about 375 Metres. When the ladder sight is raised up the minimum setting is 300 Schritt or about 225 Metres (you have to raise the slider to see this setting). What this means is if you have ammo loaded exactly the same as Patrone M1893, that is where the sights will be. That being said odds are you will have to play around a bit with whatever ammo you end up with to find the proper setting and where to aim. It also means generally you will be shooting high (expecially if you shoot a lighter bullet, as that is supposed to be 225 Metres with a 250grn bullet).

The bores are in the .329-.330 depth range, and the original .323 bullet had a skirt on the base which was supposed to expand into the grooves. When shooting my M95 .323 bullets only lightly get pressed into the grooves, and key hole and tumble etc. (though generally they are still within a 10 inch group at 100m). The much larger bore was addressed with the later 8x56r round, which had a .329 bullet.

Overall they are cool guns, I know I tend to be attracted to anything Mannlicher, but I seem to be the minority. To each their own.

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I enjoy it because it has pretty much nothing in common with any of my other rifles. Its weird and unique, so I like it. Thanks for the tips my friend, you are awesome.

It is really interesting that Mannlichers designs are now what is considered weird and unique considering back in the day his ideas and designs really dominated for a while. Many different firearms were designed by him, and many used parts of his designs.

French Berthiers, Italian Carcanos, German Commission 88 rifles, the M93, M95, and M96 turn-bolt Mannlichers in the 6.5x53r (used by the Netherlands, Romania, and Portugal). The more classic M1886, M1888, and M1888/90 action (Bulgaria, Siam, some South American countries, and of course Austria-Hungary). Then there is the M90/M95 action like what you have here (Bulgaria, Austria-Hungary, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Austria, Nazi Germany). Even the Mannlicher-Schroder rifles which equipped Greece.

For a while there was some serious competation between Mauser and Mannlicher. After WWI Mauser won, but Mannlichers designs still put up quite a good fight, some still being adapted after his death (such as the M35 Hungarian Rifle). Too bad he had to die in 1904, I would have loved to have seen what else he would have come up with.

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It is really interesting that Mannlichers designs are now what is considered weird and unique considering back in the day his ideas and designs really dominated for a while. Many different firearms were designed by him, and many used parts of his designs.

French Berthiers, Italian Carcanos, German Commission 88 rifles, the M93, M95, and M96 turn-bolt Mannlichers in the 6.5x53r (used by the Netherlands, Romania, and Portugal). The more classic M1886, M1888, and M1888/90 action (Bulgaria, Siam, some South American countries, and of course Austria-Hungary). Then there is the M90/M95 action like what you have here (Bulgaria, Austria-Hungary, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Austria, Nazi Germany). Even the Mannlicher-Schroder rifles which equipped Greece.

For a while there was some serious competation between Mauser and Mannlicher. After WWI Mauser won, but Mannlichers designs still put up quite a good fight, some still being adapted after his death (such as the M35 Hungarian Rifle). Too bad he had to die in 1904, I would have loved to have seen what else he would have come up with.

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Absolutely agree. From what I have discovered, sounds like their weak point falls to accuracy and bolt reliability? Probably why the Mauser beat them out.

They were about as accurate as most service rifles of the era. One of the issues with the M95 specifically was how thin the barrel was, mainly for sustained fire it would heat up and change the POI (though when first adopted the Austrian-Hungarians were quite proud of how thin and light they managed to make the barrel). They were also about as reliable as most other rifles so that's not the reason either (they had their quirks but so did everything else).

I believe in general they tended to be a bit more expensive. That and after WWI Austria was pretty much prohibited from manufacturing small arms, which is also why places like Czechslovakia and Belgium managed to take over the manufacturing market that Germany and Austria-Hungary held pre-WWI (as Germany was also severely limited as well). Belgium and Czechslovakia both chose to make Mauser designs, and that was that.

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Originally Posted by Eaglelord17

They were about as accurate as most service rifles of the era. One of the issues with the M95 specifically was how thin the barrel was, mainly for sustained fire it would heat up and change the POI (though when first adopted the Austrian-Hungarians were quite proud of how thin and light they managed to make the barrel). They were also about as reliable as most other rifles so that's not the reason either (they had their quirks but so did everything else).

I believe in general they tended to be a bit more expensive. That and after WWI Austria was pretty much prohibited from manufacturing small arms, which is also why places like Czechslovakia and Belgium managed to take over the manufacturing market that Germany and Austria-Hungary held pre-WWI (as Germany was also severely limited as well). Belgium and Czechslovakia both chose to make Mauser designs, and that was that.

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The light weight and thinness of the barrel were exactly the first two things I noticed when picking up thay rifle. Very impressive. I'd say thay is why the recoil is so stout on these guys? I've heard that they can really put a beating on ya!

For the long rifles, not so much expecially in the original 8x50r (a 244grn round nose going at 2035 ft/sec) as both the original caliber was somewhat slow, and since the bore was larger than the bullet, it didn't recoil as hard. For the later 8x56r (206grn bullet at about 2300 ft/sec) especially in the carbines it can kick due to lack of weight, and the power of the round. 8x56r isn't that bad in the long rifles, as again a bit more weight to help.