GI Slings back in stock

777, those are nice boots... Seems like each lot are 1 size which might make them harder to sell unless you're a bigger player. Not bad sizes though. Many lots of them for sale, will have to see where they turn up.

This was called as a fake. The oiler with the sling is one of the SW early oilers with the logo on top. It is a well used scratched up example. What's your opinion? Who would be faking slings back then?
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Dave, I've seen several of those and have owned two. One was nearly worn out and the other brand new. I paid about $30 for them and later sold them for about the same amount. I still have a "JAPAN" marked C-tip that came on a nice 5.4M Inland that I believe may have been from the NRA program in the early 60's. I showed that sling to a pretty savvy "Carbine Guy" at one of our OAC shows, for his opinion. He says, "Likely from the late 50's and worth between $50 and $100. I had been thinking it may have been from the early 60's and possibly worth $40. So far, I've never heard the exact source of slings like yours, but very well could have been a US Gov't contractor. The complaint on those that I've heard the most is about the weave at the edges of the material. I recently obtained an Inland with a leather JAPAN sling on it. I hope to start a short thread on it soon, but need to get some tinkering done on my 70 year old Ford pickup. The one that "777' is always making fun of! - Bob

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B28,
I have a friend that used to be a Contractor but after the 2008 housing crash opened a boot shop. He now owns 3 or 4 outlets. His first store is 1/2 mile away from me. I sent him that same link and he told me he'd jump on them for $75~ a pair if I did the leg work. I bought my Danners and a pair of Red Wings from him last summer. Seems it was just over $500. Lotta $$ but they last forever. Just rotate them until they wear in. I usually buy before my old ones are shot. When I was still working a good pair of boots could save your life.

Day after 9-11
A job we did for the State. Basically 2 separate office buildings joined by this commons area.
The Purple colored donut shaped bridges joined the 2 sides. City would only allow me to bag and tag (Rent) 8 parking spots. I rented the parking lot from a church a few blocks away and bought 2 old school buses. Pull up and painters would pile out. Local Bar loved seeing those buses pull up! Roughly 80 painters and 20 laborers...... When they weren't in jail or would show up. Just about eye level with our capitol dome.
We had to hoist up Scaffold picks and safety guard rails to lay across those white steel trusses to spray the ceiling decks. OSHA all over our A$$es.
Just thought about dropping those drunks back at their cars after hearing them singing 'Wheels on the bus goes round and round' :lol: Ended up donating those buses after we power washed them out to that church, they smelled like a smoky bar lounge. 5 gallon bucket ash trays.
Excuse me heading down memory lane.... That's me up on the cat walk:

When I was a lineman with Pacific Telephone in 1964, you needed a specialized shoe. You could be up there several hours hanging on those tiny sharp spikes and you'd look like a crow with a bad pair of boots. When I switched to an installer you'd never be on the hooks any longer than about a half hour, so we all used a boot from Penny's or Sears, can't remember which. I believe they were made by Red Wing and sold for $20 a pair. Great boots. Then Sears stopped selling them and Red Wings were $50+. One thing was still the same, when you cut out and fell it hurt just as bad with either boot. Vietnam Jungle boots with a steel insert were good boots but they finally wore out after a tour and a couple of years working.

Issued those same Danner boots when I deployed to Afghanistan back in 09, still have them and still wear them often.
Saw that "Original" 1944 sling the other day, just shook my head. Sad thing is someone will probably buy it.

I can't believe anyone was faking slings in the 60's. When so many surplus and NIW US slings were still around. When you look at the adds by the early commercial carbine makers most offer new in wrap USGI slings for a $1+.
~250,000 NRA Carbines selling for $20.00 ?

I just can't see fakes being made that early........ Why when there were so many real ones left over would someone gear up to make them? For what? Maybe a .10 profit.

But with that said.... After WWII were there makers of Slings for Carbines overseas?
I have often wondered if Howa who started business as a Looming company. Post WWII they got the machinery they needed to do everything from make boot laces, repair small arms, even to repair tanks from Army Ordnance during our post WWII Occupation on up to the Korean war ever made any slings.
See- The Role of Howa: Support and Parts: Howa Machinery Ltd. M1 Carbine
Same thoughts about the similar situation with Erma-Werke, early 50's(?) were given a contract to service and make parts for the Carbines loaned/sold to them by the US.
We supplied machinery, Did they make Slings that would be similar to those the US supplied?

I've wondered since looking over a made for commercial sale Erma E M1 .22 Trainer offered on auction. I have it saved and the slings look very much like some we question when there seen on our beloved M1 Carbines.

Open to Full Screen View Erma Sling link:
https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Mi...ation/49652060

Auction pics Erma E M1 .22:
https://www.gunauction.com/buy/pictures.cfm?i=14765471

Attached pic from gunauction

From a older post on the CMP... 2018
Picture comparison done by Cplnorton.
Description reads:

"You can see how the loop on the Riesing is much bigger than a standard carbine."
Carbine sling on left, Riesing on the right.

2 Links, the 2nd thoughts were the D tip was late WWII Issue.

Help identifying this M1 Carbine sling? - CMP Forums
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I've seen mixed use of different makers snaps and posts, not including repairs. Always figured Sling makers parts bins were full of different suppliers hardware... Rau, Klik It, Carr, Scovill etc. Brass and Steel.

** Question,
This 'Puffier' strap could have been measured correctly for hardware, had a C tip attached and made it to supply for M1 Carbines.
What if a Carbine sling maker received a shipment of this type strap, Would they have used it ?
Just seems like we see so many, what appear to be WWII era slings with puffy Loop.
Too many to call all Fake ?

Thoughts ?

A lot of Garand and M 14 slings were D tips. Some cotton some nylon. There was so much stuff floating around with Carbines. Spam cans of Ammunition @ 5 cents a round. NOS mags for $1. There was an old guy at the Vallejo gun shows that sold carbines, that's pretty much all he did. We considered them overpriced at $200. You could buy an almost new Commercial Colt 1911A1 for $200. We wouldn't even pick up an Army 45 for any price. Unless it was a US&S or Singer. You could buy an Essex framed 1911 for $150. I got a 4 screw S&W Combat Masterpiece .22 in trade for a $60 Webley.

AH! The good old days! The first carbine I wanted was a whole $110! But I couldn't afford it. I was only earning $1.75/hr.