Microsoft's Vista.....

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Originally Posted by dryheat

I don't know much about computers, but when the guys sold me mine, they told me, don't mess with Vista. So I stayed with XP.

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Also, salespeople tend to sell towards the clients capabilities. So if you walk up and admit that you do not know much about the subject matter they will "dumb down" and sell you the older technology. Why? Other than being rather "bubbly" the Luna interface of Windows XP was more evolution than revolution. So the salesperson is banking that you'd be more familiar with the basics of XP and not require much overhead in the form of technical support may it be from walking in asking questions or calling in via telephone.

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Originally Posted by John L. Lucci

Also, salespeople tend to sell towards the clients capabilities. So if you walk up and admit that you do not know much about the subject matter they will "dumb down" and sell you the older technology. Why? Other than being rather "bubbly" the Luna interface of Windows XP was more evolution than revolution. So the salesperson is banking that you'd be more familiar with the basics of XP and not require much overhead in the form of technical support may it be from walking in asking questions or calling in via telephone.

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John,

You hit it pretty accurately.

I agree that there is nothing wrong with Vista. It's big and the corresponding hardware is needed to run it. There is more security included with it so that most diagnose Vista as something to "stay away from" or "I heard from others don't bother." The attempts to save users from themselves with more security is met as misunderstood "bloat." Since I assemble my own computers with legal operating systems, Vista64 has been trouble free. Every 32 bit program I use on XP Pro and ran under XP Pro performs flawlessy and installed transparently with Vista 64. Those that like the XP "look" can easily customize Vista to it if desired with a few clicks.

Trying to install Vista on older hardware is like stuffing 10 lbs or crap into a five pound bag. And Windows 7 uses the Vista core kernel so Windows 7 will be a cosmetic and streamlined Vista with another name.

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Originally Posted by Ramboueille

John,

You hit it pretty accurately.

I agree that there is nothing wrong with Vista. It's big and the corresponding hardware is needed to run it. There is more security included with it so that most diagnose Vista as something to "stay away from" or "I heard from others don't bother." The attempts to save users from themselves with more security is met as misunderstood "bloat." Since I assemble my own computers with legal operating systems, Vista64 has been trouble free. Every 32 bit program I use on XP Pro and ran under XP Pro performs flawlessy and installed transparently with Vista 64. Those that like the XP "look" can easily customize Vista to it if desired with a few clicks.

Trying to install Vista on older hardware is like stuffing 10 lbs or crap into a five pound bag. And Windows 7 uses the Vista core kernel so Windows 7 will be a cosmetic and streamlined Vista with another name.

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I concur with you. :beerchug: :thup: Vista was designed to push Technology along. It wasn't for installing onto older hardware. (You can do it and it will run, but it will do so at the speed that may be less than optimal.)

Win 7 was designed to run on Netbooks on up so it will feel pretty zippy even on old hardware and when it comes to technology is an intentional "Speed bump" before getting back to the push..

Sir. My I.T guys tell me that Vista will be no longer by mid summer. Microsoft will merge Vista into another version of....?... XP? As of now, no one knows for sure. For myself. I have never had an issue with my version of Vista. I would take it over XP any day. It is a much more user friendly system. I guess I'm simply...lucky. G.

I have had Vista for the past 2 years. Absolutely, hands down, a better system. Now, this was Vista from the go. Not a patch job. But powerful, user friendly, and fast. No comparison. I have to use XP at work. And the comparison I see on a daily basis......Well, suffice it to say, one is late 20th century. The other is 21st century. Respectfully, G.

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Originally Posted by Groucho

Sir. My I.T guys tell me that Vista will be no longer by mid summer. Microsoft will merge Vista into another version of....?... XP? As of now, no one knows for sure. For myself. I have never had an issue with my version of Vista. I would take it over XP any day. It is a much more user friendly system. I guess I'm simply...lucky. G.

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Windows 7 (Which is the follow on to Vista) will have an "XP emulation mode" for a lack of a better term, but it's mechanics and it's interface will still be along Vista lines.

Been sitting here for last hour while Microsoft downloads/installs another batch of patches,this Toshiba laptop was assembled Dec.08,Vista Sp1 was pre-installed,2GB mem/160GB hard drive,bought it about the first of the month,only had it fired up off/on about a week,so far has had another service pack and about 45 patches downloaded and installed,if my old 98 Toshiba would have been capeable of burning disks I would not have bought this one,don't use a computer like everyone else does,just use for things such as email,forums,graphics/pics,google/research,never listen to music,very seldom watch a video,never do business,banking and the like by computer,if ever find out what half this stuff is I'll remove it and get rid of some of the,clutter,make it look like an old Vic 20,:yikes:

RayP.

I built a new box a bit over a year ago to replace the XPPro primary that I had built in Spring'03 ... I chose Vista Ultimate as the OS.

It is buggy, certain services will not start and some things I cannot accomplish on this new box (in order to fax I must depend upon one of my XPPro boxes).

Rather than turn it off I put it into sleep mode ... but every couple of weeks it no longer "see" my DSL ... until I reboot.

Overall, I am not enthusiastic about my bent & buggy ~$170 OS purchase.

Ubuntu Home Page | Ubuntu just avoid M$'s garbage!

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Originally Posted by Eli

Ubuntu Home Page | Ubuntu just avoid M$'s garbage!

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Ubuntu 9.04 is quite nice. :thup: I liked 8.04 as well; however, it had issues with it's wireless encryption on the hardware (the same laptop I have win 7 beta installed on) I had it installed on. I might migrate my Dell XPS M140 to it after the Win 7 beta expires as XP is now on life support.