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I agree there to some degree Beery as these scopes were never used in real life........ Roger Paynes mounts definately WERE used albeit as replacement parts for needy service L42's. I hope you don't mind me repeating that DRP as I think that it's important that it should be known because somewhere out there in the, albeit small, L42 owning world, there are about/up to 50 L42's with those mounts
I never knew that Peter ... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
I think I'll have to check the L42's in my wife's collection stored in the vault this afternoon, to see if she has any of Roger's mounts on them. :thup:
Thanks for the heads up ... :cheers:
Regards,
Doug
DPL
Thanks for yours. As an aside, I don't mark the brackets other than with the sequential numbers on the cradle clamps. I've found that the brackets have always sold for what they are; accurate (though by no means undetectable) modern-made reproductions. Even with the dawn of the cheaper 2nd/3rd world produced copies mine still trickle out steadily....which must say something!
ATVBDRP
The scope mounts that Roger sells are great! I use them on my selfmade No.4MkI*. Good ones!
I've had one of these scopes for some time and due to circumstances beyond my control have not been able to do much on the news groups as wellas do this report of the repro 32.
I've attached two pictures of the repro 32 scope parts and also included some actual 32 parts. Most of the repro parts, while close do not interchange. The one thing I do not like is the OG assembly is screwed into the tube body and the screw heads are ground off to fit the tube body. They would have to have the slots re-cut to enable removal or drilled out and replaced with slotted screws. There is also no indexing screw to align the OG tube body into the scope tube body and you have to be careful during assembly or you will cause damage to the deflection lead screw.
The reticule is stamped in one piece with no separate post and cross wire causing a slightly different sight picture. You can see the radius of the wire and post and not the sharp, clean definition of the wire and post. I'll set up my electronic microscope and photograph the difference at a later date.
There is also a bit of slop on the lead screws to both the windage (deflection) and elevation (range) but not yet sure if it will be significant when shooting. There are no anti backlash springs but I might drill the diaphragm and add one at a later date.
Detent plungers are a bit rough and I replaced them with stainless balls and stiffer springs.
The lenses are TOP QUALITY....... I've not yet pulled down the erector cell and checked the lenses on the optical bench, but the ocular lenses are excellent quality and no aberration found. OG seems excellent but then again this was tested in the tube.
Tube is steel and appears well drawn, while the turret block is a CNC product and it does not have the rounded profiles of a casting.
There are a few features that require some "tarting up", but all in all I think they are more than fair value for the money. A bit of work and they should be a nice stop gap until the real thing comes along or for the shooter who does not want to use his 1500 dollar scope at the range.
Once I finish tarting this one up I'll give a range report, but circumstances have prevented me from hitting the range for a while....but not for long, I HOPE!!!!!.
This is far from a complete analysis of the repro scope but just a starter. I have included some original parts such as the lead screw (the brass one is a new original) a lead screw jam (one is the white is an original) and of course the two piece OG and the housing with the worn brass and separate OG lens is original as compared to the blued, one piece repro.
Anyone who wants to correspond on the repro scopes, please feel free, either on the board or through the PM's.
Would I buy another......sure, but just don't expect a Zeiss...
Cheers,
Warren
I would buy one, just because it has to be just as good as a weaver and looks a lot better. I just have to find someone who will ship to Australia, as the $100 USD export rule stops Numrich to sell to me. (You would think with the way the US economy is the government would be happy for any sale that would help a business)
I would have to say anyone serious about collecting would spot it as a repoduction, but I can see the point that other members are veiwing.
Myles
Myles,
a "group buy" maybe if we can get someone to help us Aussies out?
I will be in. Finding a weaver that has the correct recticle that's not too expensive and will send to Aus is proving to be tough. For all the effort I may as well pony up extra for a repro.
Regarding posting one of these to Oz. Am I missing something..........? Don't you just put it into a jiffy bag, declare it for what it is and post it? Surely if the retailer won't do it, just ask someone else to buy it off the retailer for you then send it on...........
It can't be THAT difficult. I've just sent an L96 chest stuffed with a few other odds and sods to Oz. Customs opened it, binned the spare bolt that I'd accidentally left in there, got the customs duty paid and within 2 weeks it was there! A telescope should be a doss unless I've missed something....
Peter, you would think it is that simple. Numrich won't send anything over $100 USD internationally. Some US rule, that has been imposed. Other places won't ship also. I can't buy and ship to friends over there also as the billing address has to be same as the credit card address. Bugger if I know why it is so hard, for something so simple.
Myles