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Thanks Roger, and yes Brian has been very helpful. And that is the big question can we make them economically enough to make it worth the effort? If we go for it how many do we make? This will either be a fun worth while endeavor( so far it has been) or a complete flop. Now I know your in Birmingham, UK. Been there. So it would be hard for you to send me the parts so we could engineer them easier But hopefully some one out there will be nice enough to loan us the smaller parts from a working No 7 so we can get it done easier. I'm dreaming of course. Thanks again, all the best ~dave
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I have never seen a bolt head alone for sale so I have to ask what sort of price bracket would they be in?
Of course, I then have get it here and can't rely on luck to get it through as others I know do.
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I have seen the magazine insert being sold by a UK Enfield dealer for up to £100
Pics below showing bolt head, magazine insert and ejector plate.
The pic with the two magazines shows the difference between the original BSA magazine and the modified one for the No7 (basically the locking catch is rotated)
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...SCF00306-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...SCF00296-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...SCF00065-1.jpg
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There's the first problem DaveN........... who is going to loan you the parts if you can't get them. You'd need to pay a deposit of the cost of a rifle plus some. It's not the cost of the parts to make (which should be cheap) but the value of the parts NOW (which is expensive).
But just be warned Dave, and sorry to sound a teeny bit wary, ..............but whatever price you charge will still be too expensive
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Yes Peter that's the $64,000 question. All seems to lead to the cost to make them out weighs the price of sale. We would like to build them and at the end of the day come out ahead not be put in the poor house. My guess is that is what has prevented this from coming to market and it's such a shame as they are really nice looking rifles. That is why getting plans or the parts from someone who has one would help us keep the cost down (man hours and trial and error stuff) so we will weigh out everything and see if it's worth the risk. Time will tell.
Thanks again Peter. ~ dave
By the way does anyone know where I can purchase one of these useless / incomplete Lee Enfield No 7s ? Starting this weekend I will be going to the first of 3 gun shows with the big one in Orlando on july 2-3. Since I had no interest in this rifle before, they might have been at other shows I attended but I wasn't looking for them. Do they show up at show and are they still cheap?
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By the way does anyone know where I can purchase one of these useless / incomplete Lee Enfield No 7s ? Starting this weekend I will be going to the first of 3 gun shows with the big one in Orlando on july 2-3. Since I had no interest in this rifle before, they might have been at other shows I attended but I wasn't looking for them. Do they show up at show and are they still cheap?[/QUOTE]
Even without the missing bits, the rifles are not cheap. Friend of mine sold his 4 years ago for $450.00USD.
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Thanks Jona, and sorry you had to type all that, I know there is a way to quote with a mouse click I'm just not sure how.
Yes I get the impression that they are not cheap. But that won't stop me from looking.
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I did use the reply with quote, just deleted the first paragraph. I try to be smart and lazy, don't always succeed, though.
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On the UK No7 rifle subject, does anyone out there possess one of the alternative magazines that were issued for them? I never hear them mentioned when the No7 rifle and magazines are spoken of. It was a usual outer magazine but internally it had a small platform that was spring loaded at the front and fairly articulate at the rear. The rear incorporated a small knib that acted as the ejector. It was purpose made for single shot loading. |The reason being that while the Army No8 and Navy N9's were single loading in any case, the RAF No7 was magazine feed only and this was not permitted in some competitions, You weren't permitted to single shot feed the No7 because in doing so, it could distort the auxilliary extractor support which could cause it to slam fire when you closed the breech. They were issued one per gun and there were still some in the RAF Cadet armouries for many years plus a couple in my sons old school Cadet Armoury cupboard
Anyway, there's the question and the reason. Yet another bit of useless Enfield info And before you ask, yes, of course we've got one!
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Was told that it was the standard BSA .22 magazine with the catch reversed. Friend of mine in Canada said he successfully converted several BSA magazines by doing the "reversal." From what I have seen, you would have remove the catch, reverse it, then drill a new hole for the retaining pin/rivet.