very nice Inland M1A1

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Originally Posted by Promo

I've checked the rifle, it's indeed a hand stamped M1 :)

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I remember a discussion on the CMP carbine site earlier this year about the first reported hand stamped 1's. The earliest reports were in the early 6.6 mill serial number range if memory serves. There was one contributer to the thread, however, who claimed to have a 6.2 handstamped. He was overseas at the time so couldn't share a photo. Said he would post a photo when he got back to the States last spring/summer. Still haven't heard back.......

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This was interesting; Inland Handstamp in 1944? - CMP Forums

None of the Austrian Army M1s were marked. Only the Austrian customs marked the M1s with ZW ("ZollWache"), but not the Army. Any marking would easily identify a rifle as a fake.

Only had the mobile at hand, therefore not the best quality. However, this is the hand marked 1 on the shown rifle:

Promo, I wouldn't consider the carbine in the picture as havng a hand stamped one. The hand stamped ones typically do not line up with the M and they often times appear slightly shorter than the M. See photo.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...IMG_9847-1.jpg

Chris,

July has passed, did Phrogpilot ever send you any pictures when he got back?

Sorry it was a bad picture I've taken. However, when examining it once again today it definately appears to be VERY different from the rest of the markings. Deeper and being more or less a straight line and not a "1".

I am not sure what the first handstamped one's should look like, but if it was me who's job was it to hand-mark the rifles would have started to get them in line with the other markings since I guess they were already awaiting to mark them "2". When they would get more and more, you wouldn't spend too much time upon placing it correctly in line.

Well, I made another picture. Once again only from my mobile, but still a bit better. Would be interested what your opinions about it would be, handstamped or not?

Great seeing you back around Newscotlander :bow:
Your input is always greatly appreciated!

Cheers,
Charlie-Painter777

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July has passed, did Phrogpilot ever send you any pictures when he got back?

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No.

Regarding Promo's latest picture. Notice how the "E" in "CARBINE" above it is deeper in the same way as the number 1 is. That appears to have been applied with one stamp from the roll marking machine. I would have to see more evidence of hand stamping in this serial number block to believe it was done.

Painter777, Actually, I hadn't had my second cup of coffee when I posted on here earlier today and didn't realize it was this forum.

I own two Inland M1's - a 476K and a 5.4M. The 5.4M is stamped deeper, but both appear to be stamped "Ml" and not "M1" - Bob

It's a 1 (one). It just dosn't have serifs. Some other manufacturers used serifs on the 1.

Newscotlander,
It seems your statement,

"Apparently, no one ever found a hand stamped Inland in the serial number range 6219689-6449868. I have yet to see a photo. "

...still rings true. I was hoping that you or phrogpilot would have posted a photo of his carbine on that CMP thread when he returned. I see now that he never got back to you. Anyways,...it's always fun learning more about these carbines.