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I have plenty of spares for the III's and IV's as when we have a mil shoot it is always an adventure someone always has a melt down and the cry goes out anyone got one of these...........and it is good for the fun of it all and we all get on together no matter what we shoot K-31 's are the flavour at present.
It's far harder to fumble a mag out of the pocket and into a rifle than it is to use the chargers...
That is GREAT advice you've just dished out there in thread 19 JM. I expect that most service shooters have tried to speed mag changes up a bit, only to dump a couple on the ground in front of them after not closing the pouches securely or leaving an empty one - or worse still, a FULL one - back on the firing point during a rundown. Then losing points for not enough hits-on-target AND not having all your magazines at the end of the loooooooong series of rundowns.
The Bren pairs was the worst. I seem to rememeber that it started at 600 with rundowns, changes of gunners, mag changes, make safe, single shots and short bursts and some bursts with no less that 3 bursts allowed from 30 rounds and so on......... Been there BAR and Muffer?
The BEST bit was that when I was doing the Range Officer part, I could just tell the knackered gunners what a load of crap they all were and how easy it all was.............. After all, I'd just run-down too, but I didn't have a Bren, full pouches/webbing, pair of binos and a bren wallet flopping all over the place. Oh, happy days!
But then too, you probably had a good ten years over them all. Our troops don't believe the stories about the rundowns now...from waaaaaaayyyy back there...Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Our SSR's forbid us to change position with any rounds in the mag so you have no choice but to use strippers, I like the strippers as if you have a tight mag why waste time trying to muscle it out and risk dropping it in the sand I managed with my No.4 25 rounds prone in 1 minute for a 75.1/125.25 @ 200M at a figure 10 that's starting with 10 in the mag and doing 3 strippers with a bloody rim over on the last one great fun they are.
Not worried about the score just being allowed to wind it up as when we shoot comp we are tied to 5 rounds at a time in the mag to be fair to the Mauser actioned weapons.
Had a ball as it is one of the traits a Smelly excels at and that is getting them out of the barrel we had 12 on the mound all hammering away really put it into perspective if you had 3-400 of them all cranking out what you would be facing definitely not for me facing that volume of fire...
Brings back memories Pete, 1986 me and my Sqn. OC cleaned up the best of them at AASAM with an AR.
First round hits every time,:dancingbanana: (I used to run up mountains once;))
Hey Muffet imagine in WWI facing stuff like that well it would be like the MG 42 in WWII like they akin its burst of fire like ripping calico and dam well hated it except for the barrel change.
Seriously the great thing about the lee enfield line is for a bolt action in trained hands can be fast and lethal, some where I have heard there was a Sergeant in WWI era in 1 minute placed 35 rounds all bulls at 300yds this is a true story of a feat of arms.
I watched a feat of arms with a WWII Sniper 85 y/o vet who went through Bastogne using a replica M-A3 I think from freedom arms place 2 rounds in the head at 300yds then they took him to 1000yds with a A-5 Rem and a sniper team and he was doubtful about hitting the target they reassured him, he placed all his rounds within 1/2 moa 3 rounds I think.
1st - head shot 2nd- hit in the mouth 3rd- hit in the mouth all at a 1000yds and a trained sniper from WWII having never fired that type of weaponry the Marine sniper team who were champions in their own rite had nothing but shear respect for this humble vet.
They commented that he shot well beyond the rifles capabilities and as the Marine sniper team said once trained you never forget and I for one have watched this vid lots of times and the expression on the vets face when freedom arms presented him with the replica A3 was priceless
Also the Marine snipers they presented him with the famous black cap this was a real touching part of the video the vet really choked up as he realised just what it meant as I think they said only 6 had been presented to civilians since its inception I wish I could remember the link to share with you all....
85 year old WWII sniper nails firing range targets. - YouTube I think this is the tube link. Incredible
This is why the Japanese didn't even think of invading the west coast. You'd have a bunch of 95yr old Civil war vets behind every blade of grass... HOORAH...