I think a picture might be a big help here.
I think a picture might be a big help here.
I agree whole heartedly Mike. Yet another thread that will drift on and on and on forever into legend and folklore and hypothesis - and the realms of conjecture - unless there's a photo
See Threads #2, #4, #14
And the possibility of pics in Thread #17
Getting just like the ACME ads but wait there's more buy 1 get 2 free or are we dealing with the laws of relativity !
Well reminded Cinders! It shows how long it's been dragging on. In the meantime, I suggest that the mysterious D markings indicate a bayonet worn by the famous Dagenham Girl Pipers, a famous pipe band during their band tour of Tripoli.
Or quite Possibly, the Daredevils from the Women's Auxillury Balloon Corps. When they were based at Camber Sands Holiday Camp!......................:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Looks like we have two of those ladies that believe they are the font of all knowledge - not, making comments that demonstrate just how puerile they actually are.
Its just like this ~ I have a Mark III it has wood on it with markings and there are stampings on the metal can you tell me what I have pics will follow next century!
My words of wisdom you should do a bit of a background check on what people have contributed to this site and to the milsurps collectors in general, I feel PL more than qualifies to comment anyway he sees fit, probably forgotten more than I will ever know.
Enjoy the site it is a grand place just beware who's toes you tread on as I found out really early on the fonts of knowledge close up to you and all that knowledge from field experience will be out of your reach. And that trespass I did 6 years ago and they are just tolerating me now........:madsmile:
puerile ~ Synonyms adolescent, babyish, immature, infantile, jejune, juvenile, kiddish, childish
Related Words boyish, brattish, bratty, girlie (or girly), girlish; childlike, innocent, naive (or naïve), simple, simplistic, unsophisticated
That was a bit harsh Smithy. I learned all I know about straight talking while with the Australian Army as a RAEME Armourer between 1967 and late 1969 Smithy. It hasn't done me any harm since. But to be absolutely fair, my answers thus far have been as equally informative as yours in as much as they didn't answer the question. Mind you, nobody has so far and they won't until we see a picture. And then I will throw in a REALLY low baller.....
I agree that a picture will answer everything. Peter, just don't know why comments regarding women band members need to be mentioned and others take up challenge by adding to it. I don't know Steve in UK but feel for him and that his thread ends up in ridicule (that's the way it appears to me anyway). Steve (Flying10uk) did PM me asking if he could forward photo by email and I have said yes and have now offered to upload to the thread if he is unable to do so. Whether he will now I don't know but these bayonets do exist in collections around Australia in significant numbers just don't know of any sand colour ones. Here in Oz sand coloured No4's are very few and far between.
Apologies for jumping out of my tree, I think I need to lighten up a little. :o
I'm not quite sure that a picture will answer this given some thought, unless it is backed up with something else. The definitive answer here is this. If No4 bayonets were issued to the Australian home Army through the official Ordnance system* then in the Ordnance Corps VAAOS catalogue there WILL be a part number for such as sure as god made little green apples! How would the equipment be issued, stored, maintained, controlled etc etc if it weren't accounted for, albeit initially. Even if it were a terse, cover-all description such as:
BAYONET, No4, all marks, with scabbard, UK pattern for No4 rifle. VAAOS Sect B1. Part No AB/CD-1234 (or whatever).
That's how the system works! No Aust VAAOS number or provisional number and I say NOT Australian issue. Our first 81mm mortars, purchased from UK/Canada had Australian Ordnance issued provisional part numbers so that we could indent for spares (that's how we discovered the UK made metallastic elevating bushes were useless in the wet heat).
That's just my opinion based NOT on owning or collecting a No4 bayonet (or indeed ANY bayonet), but knowing how the Ordnance system in relation to small-arms works
(* Ignore pooled Ordnance resources in places like Malaya, Borneo, Korea etc as they were issued under a centralised command system)