Of the 1500 No4 trials rifles converted to snipers

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All this time and I still don't have any good overall shots! Maybe it's time to go afield with it for a few days.

I have one, listed in this thread https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=43672

It is a trials T conversion, but was then FTR'd and has a new barrel (Faz). It has an original scope mount, but not the one that was originally with the rifle, and has a "scrubbed" scope on it. Also has had a cutoff reinstalled on it (the wrong one). If I can find a decent set of post WWII Faz wood I will put it to a standard #4 configuration as suggested in the last post of my thread. So, a Trials T survivor, but modified.

Ed

I wonder what is more rarer now, No4T conversions of Trials rifles or standard Trials Rifles.

Hi Simon,
I'm speaking from memory of the 'accepted' figures; IIRC I think the total Trials rifles was about two & a half thousand, the figure for conversions being given as 1403. This would suggest a little more than half of the total production were converted to sniper configuration.

ATB

I have one as well. Serial number A0972 built in 1933. It's a very honest and original, (well used), rifle but with mismatch telescope and bracket.

Here is the 4T Trails converted to L42 that Peter mentioned! 1933 dated, then 2 major conversions, 1st to T spec in 1941? then to L42 spec in 1971! Still with original front pad too!

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Where does one get the correct screws for the sniper pads these days? by correct I mean the right material. here in the US of A SARCO is selling the screws, but they are some modern made cadnium plated crap, or so I am told.

Dunk them in acid or bead blast the cad plate off. A mild acid should shift cadmium

Battery acid will shift it in minutes - as will acaetic if my chemistry is still sound! But you'll often find that cad plate hides a brass screw!

Here are my two a '31 and '33. From my observations in collecting Trials No. 4's finding an non-T converted trials in much, much harder. I have been on the hunt for a long time with still no luck.....

That one of Lances is interesting because the original spec said something similar to '.....in recognition of its change to its telescope role, the letter T will be added to and alongside the rifle designation' And there it is.

Later of course the spec was followed and the letter T was stamped 'alongside the rifle designation' on the bodyside. This was the only time that the bodysiode was stamped. The b utt socket could be re-stamped but the body-side was always engraved. In UK service anyway!