Arisaka Stock Color Question

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Originally Posted by Marines55

As stated before, there are arisaka stocks that had dark brown finish. These are made by very specific arsenals and only in very specific series. The grain of the wood used in stocks such as the one in the original post also come from two very specific arsenals and in only three to four different series. I have some pics of the wood grain and dark brown finish on rifles in my collection I will post a little later. These dark brown finishes and odd wood grain are not uncommon in mid production type 99short rifles. More to come later

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awesome, i look forward to seeing them.

this is an example of a late production type 99 short rifle in a rope hole configuration. the grain is not as pronounced as another rifle i will get some pics of tomorrow. but the stock finish is a flat dark brown and is original.

Pictures please

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Originally Posted by Marines55

this is an example of a late production type 99 short rifle in a rope hole configuration. the grain is not as pronounced as another rifle i will get some pics of tomorrow. but the stock finish is a flat dark brown and is original.

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That's interesting.

I don't know if you noticed, but the lower half of my rifle's stock is very similar to your rifle's stain color.

I'm confused why the lower half of my rifle absorbs the stain so differently than the rest of the rifle. I mean, it's the same stain used so how does that work?

I picked out of the dud box at my range some gold. Original 6.5 Jap "Gallery rounds". No head stamp at all. Looks, to the common reloader, that the bullets were put in backwards, but are not. The projectile is sealed w/ a red paint or something. My research from today on Forgotten Weapons is that this 1 of 2 types of rounds made for training Japanese children to fight for the mainland. I found about 25. Thoughts on pricing? I have seen 2 that were sold for 80.00 for the pair. WOW. Did the dud box give me gold??? The bullets are mostly one size, but there are 4 cases that are longer maybe 7.7 Jap Gallery rounds. Can't figure out how to post a picture on this page from my computer pictures.

Different wood.

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Originally Posted by Mauser1947

I'm confused why the lower half of my rifle absorbs the stain so differently than the rest of the rifle. I mean, it's the same stain used so how does that work?

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A cross section of a tree shows the growth rings. Each growth ring while of the same tree produces wood of a different density based on the time of year, nutrients, water, etc that the tree has access too. More dense wood accepts stain less. more porus wood accepts stain more easily.

Most stocks are cut following the grain of the wood because this makes them stronger. knots or cross grain cuts are generally avoided as they can cause weakness, especially knots. Your stock has a lot of cross grain showing in the forend. Doesn't mean it is weak, many civilian arms have those cuts simply because of the look. Not all that common with military arms.

the lower portion of the butt stock will sometimes be a bit different in color than the rest of the stock. this is because the grain of the wood runs in a different direction for the toe splice than it does for the rest of the butt stock. the Japanese made toe splices in the stocks in order to avoid the stock from cracking when slammed to the ground. this type of crack is very common in mosins that had the stock made of one piece of wood.

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Originally Posted by Marines55

the lower portion of the butt stock will sometimes be a bit different in color than the rest of the stock. this is because the grain of the wood runs in a different direction for the toe splice than it does for the rest of the butt stock. the Japanese made toe splices in the stocks in order to avoid the stock from cracking when slammed to the ground. this type of crack is very common in mosins that had the stock made of one piece of wood.

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ok, that's interesting. It does make the stock look nicer with half the stock having the wood grain in a different direction.

Do you have the pictures of the dark stock Type 99?

patience. i work 14 hour shifts and have little time to post pics when i get home. i will have some free time later tonight to do so.