Is the serial number stamped or engraved on your spare '45 date receiver Rog? Just curious.
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Is the serial number stamped or engraved on your spare '45 date receiver Rog? Just curious.
I should have come in directly and clarified what I was referencing to. I didn't mean to suggest BSA didn't electro pen war time rifles... I was simply referring to their post war work. Sorry for the confusion.
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Originally Posted by Roger Payne
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Hi Brian. Mine is V394XX & is engraved on the receiver side wall. The serial number is NOT on the butt socket. It is 1945 dated, & bears the cancelled 'TR' like Surpmil's, & also bears both the 'D6E' & the 'S' on the cut-off block. It does not show the receiver side wall T.
Hope this is of interest.
No confusion Dave. Just small intricate details I never really took note of before.
Roger, I've just had a hard look at my 1945 T which is V375XX. It makes perfect sense that the serial numbers were stamped on the butt socket during the conversion process because the Brunofix finish as used by H&H after modification pretty much makes the lightly engraved side wall markings disappear. My 1943 rifle, sn. AT57XX, even though having been phosphated and baked with Suncorite, still has the engraved No.4Mk.1 marking on the sidewall clearly visible. It would have originally been blued and the serial number stamped on the butt socket. Guessing that BSA started engraving the serial numbers on the side wall under the model designation in 1944?
Well observed Brian. I'm not sure exactly when BSA would have started engraving them on the side wall, but either 44 or even (?early?) 45, I suppose. I'll have a look at a few rifles in the gun room & see how they're marked up.
Were they actually engraved at that late stage or do you mean what is called 'panto-etched'. This where the electric/electro-pencil is held in a pantograph frame. It is the same shallow engraving BUT in a regular tidy format. Whereas engraving is quite deep, with a rotating cutter.
You're correct Peter. My poor choice of words. They appear done with a pantograph machine. I have a 1944 BSA done that way so guessing they changed from stamping the butt sockets then. It was done after the bluing was applied too as it's "in the white".
Brian, I looked at about half a dozen 44 & 45 4T's yesterday evening & all but one X prefix 45 rifle have the serials stamped on the butt socket only. It's obviously only a tiny sample size, but it looks as though there might be a considerable amount of variation......
Do they still all still have the brunofixing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Payne
Could the refinishing/added finish have removed or obscured the engraving?