When it really happens: SHTF...

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Originally Posted by Aragorn243

Must be a New Jersey thing. Only frenzy in PA seems to be with ammo. Local gun shop has two cases of pistols, maybe not the newest as I don't pay attention to that sort of thing. Another down in Lancaster is getting plenty of new things.

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Unfortunately there is not too many gunshops in NJ as in some other states. Location is important!! As with any business we are the closest stop in NJ for the Philadelphia/Camden war zones with the Trenton war zone right up the road. All sorts of folks are arming themselves as the politicians have abandon the honest, hard working. tax paying folks for the criminal element. Those folks that can flee the cities are doing so and the tax base for the cities with them. A lot of folks who live in the inner cities are stuck with no where to go. If the local politicians/police are not going to protect them who will. These folks see their only option is to protect themselves.

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Originally Posted by fjruple

Update from Yesterday: No changes in sales, people still asking for the unobtainable. 9mm pistols are becoming unavailable. War trophies are starting to come in for repairs and cleaning as no new pistols are available. Late in the day my distributor finally showed up with 10 Troy A4 Others in 5.56mm and 10 12 gauge Churchill tactical pump shotguns and 5 Black Aces tactical pump shotguns. The blood is in the water!! Tomorrow will be a feeding frenzy at the shop.

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Another update from Thursday: The blood was in the water!! It was a feeding frenzy that I have never seen before. We advertised on social media at 11:45AM (Opening at 12:00PM to 6:00PM due to the Covid-19 virus) that we had the 10 Troy A4 5.56mm Other firearms, 5 Black Aces 12 gauge pump shotguns, and 5 12 Gauge tactical Churchill pistol grip shotguns and 5 Churchills with the conventional buttstocks. With in ONE hour and fifteen minutes all of the Troys and Black Ace Pump shotguns were gone!! By the end of the day we only had one pistol grip Churchill and three of the conventional Churchills left. They will probably be all gone by the end of today. No 9mm ammo this week everything went to the police for their qualifications.

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Originally Posted by fjruple

Another update from Thursday: The blood was in the water!! It was a feeding frenzy that I have never seen before. We advertised on social media at 11:45AM (Opening at 12:00PM to 6:00PM due to the Covid-19 virus) that we had the 10 Troy A4 5.56mm Other firearms, 5 Black Aces 12 gauge pump shotguns, and 5 12 Gauge tactical Churchill pistol grip shotguns and 5 Churchills with the conventional buttstocks. With in ONE hour and fifteen minutes all of the Troys and Black Ace Pump shotguns were gone!! By the end of the day we only had one pistol grip Churchill and three of the conventional Churchills left. They will probably be all gone by the end of today. No 9mm ammo this week everything went to the police for their qualifications.

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I've kept my DEFCON at three for months now, and I'm glad I did not have to raise it.
When I read these things about the good old US of A, I am appalled.
How is it possible to leave a country in the hands of mobs... to defund the police and be serious about that without being overwhelmed by spitting crowds and laughing individuals...
My fear is that, like with the political correctness Bravo Sierra, that might very soon spill over to the Old Continent, where idiots do not lack either.
And then we'll be in the same boat, with the difference that, mostly, we are all well registered for what we own. The Italian police knows exactly all I have and could come and grab everything in a matter of minutes... if allowed. But if not allowed, that would be my end. And my familys'...
Yankee friends, you make me worry more than I would like right now...
In the meantime, since tomorrow is the second more respected (maybe third) festivity in Italy, I'll go home soon and start putting octopus in sous vide, curing and marinating spare ribs, put some first class whine in the cellar, stack wood for the embers...
Tomorrow I'll have mass at 10:00, then I'll change to my "combat gear" for BBQ and start preparing lots of great things.
By the way...the octopus will be grilled delicately and land on a wonderful wood-oven bread for galactic bruschettas, with wonderful olive oil (extra virgin!!!), garlic and Hawaiian black salt (or maybe Himalayan pink salt?). The starter for a great day.
I'll take pictures, because I'm not sure I'll be able to tell you what happened next:rolleyes:
Hold on mates!

The problems are in some of the big cities, not everywhere. I have seen no disruption at all in my area and have attended a couple of gun shows since all this started and saw nothing out of the ordinary. In fact the last show I was at was very quiet. I asked Mike about it and he said they rushed in when the doors opened, bought a ton of ammunition and all left. I'll be going to another one tomorrow so I'll see if it's changed.

Portland Oregon is the worst. They have had riots, not peaceful protests, riots for going on two straight months, every day, every night. They stopped reporting on it. Seattle is probably a close second.

Rather hard to explain, the leadership in these cities are very liberal and they either outright support the protests or sympathize with them to some degree. So they appease them believing that will control them and it never works, it just makes them demand even more. So the destruction goes on, the Federal government steps in to protect their assets and they try to divert attention to them and then demand they leave, etc and that does move attention temporarily but that's all. Portland's mayor is starting to wake up and is starting to push back to the utter amazement of the rioters and they are starting to back down.

Quite a few places never left things get out of control at all, most actually. Police in no danger of being defunded at all, doing their jobs, etc. Chicago, New York are two that are seeing huge spikes in crime of all sorts and demoralized police forces because both announced budget cuts, etc. I really haven't seen much out of Philly so pretty sure things are stable there. I live an hour away so should hear about it if somethings going on. Did a news search and there are protests off and on but the last one was weeks ago and there are no efforts to defund the police there that I can see. I also was reading a couple of days ago about how Baltimore is quiet which is odd because that is one place that had out of control crime for a long spree there not long ago. I refuse to go there.

But here, no protests in weeks, not riots at all, life goes on as normal minus a lot of places being closed or having restricted hours. I have not started carrying outside the house. I have weapons ready to go all over the house but haven't cocked and loaded any yet.

In a way, it's getting kind of humorous now watching these mayors take a step back and regroup. The protestors made the mistake of saying the stuff they were stealing was reparations and they deserved it. They then had the gall to say it was all insured so the businesses didn't lose anything. So today, the mayor of Chicago had to respond that it is never OK to take someone else's property. This after months of allowing it to happen, not allowing the police to stop it and not prosecuting the few they actually did arrest. They brought this on themselves.

Here's what we are dealing with here in Michigan. Read how our Gov Vetoed a bill that would stop admitting Positive Covid-19 cases in to Nursing homes

Gretchen Whitmer is Americas most incompetent politician

Even before the pandemic it was clear that nursing homes were hellish dens of illness and filth. These institutions, the vast majority of which are run on a for-profit basis, are not a fit place for anyone. Which is why it is almost unbelievable that in some states patients with active cases of COVID-19 are still being moved from hospitals to elder care facilities.

The results have been predictable. Nursing homes, which have been the focal point of the epidemic in this country since March, are responsible for at least 40 percent of all deaths attributed to the coronavirus. Governors in vast majority of states decided some time ago that no one infected with the virus should be sent to a nursing home and that every other imaginable precaution should be taken to ensure that the disease is not introduced to places in which it is guaranteed to spread like wildfire. Among them, after a long delay, was the Democratic governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, who has otherwise distinguished himself during the present crisis mostly for a series of obnoxious CNN appearances with his brother, Chris.

This has not been the case in my home state of Michigan. Two weeks ago, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer vetoed a piece of legislation that would have prevented patients with active COVID-19 infections from being placed in nursing homes. Instead, the legislation would have required these individuals to be treated in entirely separate, otherwise empty facilities reserved exclusively for those who have already contracted the disease.

It is impossible to mount a scientific justification for Whitmer's veto. It was an act of pure spite, a move that signaled nothing save her unlimited contempt for the Republican-controlled state legislature. Her feeble defense — that not placing virus patients in nursing homes where their chances of infecting their fellow occupants are all but guaranteed would have violated their medical rights and privacy rights — is risible on its face. Where were the supposed rights of the same individuals when they were moved from hospitals to nursing homes, ostensibly in accordance with guidelines from the CDC? Where were the rights of those who would be exposed to this lethal disease? Only three days after the first case of the virus was confirmed in Michigan, the head of the Healthcare Association of Michigan proposed treating coronavirus patients in vacant facilities in a widely shared letter. This idea, which would almost certainly have saved hundreds and perhaps even thousands of lives, was imperiously dismissed out of hand by Whitmer.

Why should anyone be surprised, though? This is the same governor who decreed that it was illegal to visit one's own private vacation home and to purchase garden gnomes in stores that were otherwise open, who decided to open the northern half of the state for the explicit purpose of visiting Traverse City, where days later a patriotic marina owner refused to allow Whitmer's husband to launch his expensive boat ahead of others who had been waiting longer. Whitmer is everything critics accuse President Trump of being: venal, narcissistic, hypocritical, obtuse, willfully ignorant, and totally indifferent to human life.


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I didn’t take pictures...still a great day.
G’night folks...

Five state governors ordered nursing homes to take covid patients in direct contradiction to CDC recommendations. New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan and California. 70% of all deaths in PA are from nursing homes.

Gun show report. Got there late morning, no crowd. Parking lot had plenty of spaces. Lots of stuff for sale inside. Most of the stuff was older. Not a lot of modern guns so they are selling. Did not see much ammo for sale either. This was a small show.

People who never thouth about 'guns' are now coming to me for "advice" on what to buy for home protection. Most are shocked when I tell them that you just can't go out an buy a fund that you have to take a California Gun Saftey test (and pay for it) and do a back ground check (and payfor it) and wait 10 days (really 13 days) before you will get you firearm. I go on to tell them while I would normally help you find the right firearm for the application, you do not have a large choice if any right now as most guns stores are sold out and that finding ammunition is another problem. Then there is the training as a firearm is not like operating a computer; you can't just point and click. While I know a few gun stores that have pleanty of 9mm Ammo, neat imposabble to buy any handgun in 9mm. You can still find someshot guns but they are set up for hunting with the longer barrels.

My wife did pick up her Sig P365 XL last Tuesday but shes still recovering from her surgery so we have not had a chance to take it out.

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Originally Posted by Ovidio

G’night folks...

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Ero troppo ubriaco per fare foto. Troppo buon vino :cool:

Saluti :cheers:

Dormi bene amico mio ubriaco ! :clap:

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