If you gave me one I'd drop it in the river

Good Lord! Saw one with a 2" barrel. A person could pick up the wrong end and actually shoot themselves.
FN Herstal - PS90 USG Carbine OD Green, 5.7X28

Theose things look like an exhaust manifold for a boat or some other industrial machine.

I have handled one and didn't care much for it. I didn't think it looked like a machine; in fact, it looks like they tried too hard to be "artsy" with all those curves.

And FWIW, a gun IS a machine. When you come down to it, why does it need to be good looking or asthetically pleasing? I know the "blued steel and walnut" tradition, but given a choice between a gun that works and one that looks good, guess which one I'll take. Every time.

Jim

I agree with you Jim K, However in this case as talented as Dean is, even he couldn't make anything out of this ugly gun.

But if I were given one, I would sell it and buy a "blued steel and walnut" to replace it. But then, creeping age tends to cloud my previous "spray and pray" mentality.

OFC

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Originally Posted by Jim K

I have handled one and didn't care much for it. I didn't think it looked like a machine; in fact, it looks like they tried too hard to be "artsy" with all those curves.

And FWIW, a gun IS a machine. When you come down to it, why does it need to be good looking or asthetically pleasing? I know the "blued steel and walnut" tradition, but given a choice between a gun that works and one that looks good, guess which one I'll take. Every time.

Jim

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I think well designed machines are aesthetically pleasing. :D I don't like the carbine in question because I don't want my face that close to the action. A malfunction could make me less aesthetically pleasing than I already am!

when wood was removed from the "black rifle'!

Saw one back in 70's that was done in Walnut. That looked nice!

It's a fact that it is ugly and I wouldn't want one. But the skinny I hear is the cartridge preforms well and it's easy to handle even in full auto. Hey we gotta get our weapons to look like they did in the Alien movies right?


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Rebellion Becomes Duty
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"Form follows function" is what they say in art school. A good looking, pleasing design is one that generally works; Think 1911, Model 36, Model 94.
One that looks clunky, in my estimation, would perform clunky.

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"Form follows function" is what they say in art school. A good looking, pleasing design is one that generally works; Think 1911, Model 36, Model 94.
One that looks clunky, in my estimation, would perform clunky.

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Yep. I think that critter would shoot well, for it's intended mission.

Personally I'd prefer an MP-5/10:
http://www.remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/mp5/mp510/mp510.htm
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