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Remington 11 info needed
Gentlemen, I have been looking at a Remington model 11 shotgon. I believe it to be authentic, but need a few questions answered. It has US Military Finish on the receiver, US and the flaming bomb on the barrel...both of which appear correct. Also on the side of the barrel where the date code is located, there is an anchor. No CYL stamped, and there is a Cutts Compensator ...would these be correct ? The left side of the stock is stamped with the ordinance canons and FJA...would this be correct ?
Thank you for any help.
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The anchor mark is a Remington factory mark, not a military mark.
The Military Model 11s with factory installed Cutts compensators do not have barrel choke marks. So the Cutts is likely original from the factory.
Make sure that it has matching serial numbers on the receiver, barrel (next to the assembly ring), the stock (have to remove stock to see number), and on the trigger assembly there may be one or more (have to remove it to see them all).
What's the serial number, if you know?
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Tom, Thanks for all the info, you nailed the barrel code...RMM. 100% correct and original. Thank you
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Yes sound correct to me. Your shot gun is for training purposes to teach fundamentals of putting a lead on targets. Much cheaper than 50 cal. As to Cyl bore to the best of my knowledge only riot type used that bore. Also trench but Model 11 didnt come in that configuration. I have both, one similar to yours with a bird scene and the riot with Cly bore and military finish on it . Hope this helps Jeff B
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bbl length
Does this gun have a long bbl or a riot length bbl ? I've seen both with the no-choke-marked bbl. They all seem to be orig. I just can't see them putting a comp on a riot bbl. , but there appears to be several out there. Chris
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Chris, It has a long barrel, seems 100% original.
Thanks for the input
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The remark about the anchor stamp is interesting, as just the past week I was leaving the local gun shop when I ran into a collector I have known for years. He ask me if I had any information on the Model 51 Remingtons that were used by the Navy as he had one with the anchor on it. When I explained that the anchor was a Remington inspection or proof mark and had nothing to do with the Navy, he protested that his had U.S. Navy stamped under the grip panels.
And so it goes.
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i thought the same thing with the marking, i have a 513T marked with an Anchor right by the serial number,
thought it was a Navy mark for years, iv read a couple places that it was a subinspectors mark as well,
when i find the book, and read it ill write it down by my desk as not to forget it.
another foot note.
i have early riot M11 that was used for Skeet shooting by the Nat Guard, and it has a cutts comp on it as well,
not sure if they did it, or Remington did it, ill check again for the choke markings, but i dont think it had any.
i picked it up from a man that used it for that, and when the Guards trap skeet club closed he kept the shotgun, and it sat in his closet for 40 years.
iv shown some pics in the past, if i get a chance, ill post some more pics of that shotgun as well.
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Thank you all, I appreciate the willingness to share your wealth of knowledge.
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The mention of the NG skeet gun is interesting. I saw a Winchester Model 12 SN# range was 1945 trench gun and US marked. It had the butt stock with sling swivel. The barrel was a replacement..not Winchester. It had a Simmons vent rib and a Cutts comp. The condition of this gun was excellent. I wondered if it might have been altered for recreational purposes by an armorer.